Tablighi Jamat Penetrated in the blessed land of Yemen

19 Jun

06/17/2008  by Abu Bilal

The Tableeghi Jamaat have entered into new terrority in Yemen using their age old methods of penetrating Shaikhs of Tassuwuf. In this case they are using the Habib Omar madrassa to promote themselves as mainstream. Thier new victims are Habib Omars pool of international students. Here they have a pools of lame duck students to convert to their devient ways. Many Sunni youngsters are going to Tarim and coming back brainwashed Sula-Kuli, semi tableeghi zombi like fashion, giving presidence to actions, ‘unity’, so called dawa over the aqeedah of the Ahl-e-Sunnah.

These new recruits after been brain washed in Tarim are then followed up in the UK by making them feel the elected elite of 1 of 5, chosen people of the Habiab to extend the Dawa. This way the newly recruited semi-tableeghi now becomes a dedicated zombified machine. It is time for the Sunni’s to stand up and reject Habib Omar position. TJ, Deos, Wahabi are deviant, we need to safeguard our imaans and not to mingle with the deviants.

Say no to the new sect of neo-tableeghi’s, reject the new age unity sect in the name of mercy, mercy, love, love, Mawlid, Mawlid and Dawa Dawa…This is the new Shatian ploy…Stick to the Ahl-e-Sunnah behind our imaam Ahmad Rida Khan (RA).

This TJ strategy has proven so successful, much of Indonisa has been impacted due to Habaib connections. To the extent one of the senior Habiab in Indonsia has now become a Salafi. A masjid in Tarim has been taken by the Wahabi’s.

Many senior scholars have bought this to light to Habib Omar and Habib Ali Jafri but they prefer to turn the blind eye, at the expense of thousands of people having thier imans robbed by the parasites of TJ.

TJ and Neo-TJ (Unity Habaib sect) becoming increasingly impossible to destinguish. Be warned.

Read this Hadith with regard to them-

Hazrat Ali (Radiallhu Anhu) once narrated: “I swear by Allah that to fall from the sky to the Earth is very simple for me, but to utter one false word in reference to the Holy Prophet (Sallal Laahu Alaihi Wasallam) is a very difficult and impossible task for me.”

Hazrat Ali(Radiallhu Anhu) then narrated as follows:

“I heard the Holy Prophet (Sallal Laahu Alaihi Wasallam) as saying that as the Day of Qiyamah approaches there will appear a group of youths with a low mental capacity and understanding, apparently they will talk of good but their Imaan will not go beyond their throat and they will leave the true Deen like an arrow leaves the prey. Wherever you find them, you should make Jihaad with them. (Bukhari Shareef, pp/1024)

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79 Responses to “Tablighi Jamat Penetrated in the blessed land of Yemen”

  1. Abdoeragmaan July 23, 2008 at 8:26 am #

    you points dont make sense. do you know who the habaib are what they stand from & where they come from. are you for or against mawlid. & for your info the Habaib are responsible for one third of the worlds muslim. so dawah runs in their blood. & they wrote most of the mawlid that we read throughout the world. so there you go.
    you guys from the sub continent have to stop bringing your troubles out of india. keap it to yourselfs. this deoband, berelwi thing has gone to far & if you support this split in the deen then you will be taken to task by Allah. this is stupid.

    • farhan May 20, 2012 at 10:54 pm #

      very good bro

  2. Sher-e-Ghousia July 31, 2008 at 9:18 pm #

    At least Scholars like Shaykh al Yaqoubi, Shaykh al Ninowy and Dr Irfan al Alawi are aware of these cunning deobandis.

    Insha’Allah Azawajal, the Habaibs will also recognise the hypocrisy of the deobandis.

  3. Abdoeragmaan August 4, 2008 at 10:30 am #

    seriously guys the tabligh are not that bad. ok so they are extreme. but so are most sect incl the ones you belong to.

    • zahid khan binkar November 27, 2010 at 2:21 pm #

      YOR TABLIGH ONLY FOR DISTROY THE EMAGE OF PROFET MOHAMMAD AND WALI AALLAH AND NOTHING ABDUL WAHAB NAJDI KAFIR TRIED TO DISTRIY THE TOMB OF PROFET MOHAMMAD YOU ALL PEOPLE WILL GO WITH DAJJAL AND FIGHT AGINST IMAMA MAHNDI

      • Zahid Biswas August 14, 2012 at 9:12 pm #

        Mashallah… Zahid Khan… you got the knowledge of ghaib(unseen)… I did not know that Allah has given you the job to decide people’s future… Very nice… This is what happen when people started criticizing others and forget about themselves.. remember .. shaitan always present ourselves as an angel in our sight .. if we are busy in seeking other’s fault we won’t be able to see ours.. Illa mar rahimallah.. May Allah guide us all..

  4. Sher-e-Ghousia August 4, 2008 at 7:00 pm #

    The question here is not about the Tablighi Jama’ats “extremism”, but their (Tablighi/Deobandi) corrupt Aqida’. The Tablighi/Deobandis shout bid’a and shirk to Mawlid, Tawasul and going to Shrines when people in India do such things. But when the Tablighi/Deobandis see any Arab’s do the same, they don’t say anything. This is because if they said bida or shirk to any Arab people or Shayu’uks, they (the Tablighi/Deobandis) will be exposed.

    For any of our great Arab Scholars who want to fully understand the situation, they need to learn Urdu, like Dr Irfan al Alawi and others have done.

    PS: We don’t belong to any new sect but are part and parcel of the Ahle Sunnah Wal Jama’ah.

    • farhan May 20, 2012 at 10:55 pm #

      u cal urself sher e gausia..gaus pak never left a single salaah or did urs like u plpe..prove it if hazrat gaus did dat what u r doin…he did what tablighis r doin…

  5. Abdoeragmaan August 10, 2008 at 1:07 pm #

    I know deobandis, in fact I know that one of the top students of all time actualy attends maulids. & by the way the deobands study Aqida Tahawi. what is so corupt about that. You guys think that Urdu is so great but its just as good as learning any other language. & the people of India go over board with the way they behave at shrines. spend so much money on a grave when half of India live in poverty.

  6. Sher-e-Ghousia August 10, 2008 at 10:39 pm #

    You said you know one student who celebrates Mawlid. Alhamdulillah, thats good to hear. I know a wahhabi who goes to Mawlids as well. Doesn’t mean he is Sunni.

    If you read the Deobandi books, you will see that:

    - they reject the permissibility of saying Ya Rasool’Allah (sallal’Lahu alayhi wa’sallam) and say it is shirk

    - they don’t believe that Allah Ta’ala has granted the Sweet Beloved Prophet (Sallal Lahu Alaihi Wa Salam) with the knowledge of the unseen (Ilm e Ghaib) and say this is also shirk. Some Scholars say that if you don’t believe that Prophets (Alayhimus salam) have knowledge of the unseen (Granted by Allah Ta’ala) then you are not a Muslim. The Scholars say that a role of a Prophet or Messenger is to deliver the unseen knowledge.

    There are more such corrupt Aqidah od the Deobandis.

    • Mohammed afzal July 21, 2009 at 1:34 pm #

      Dear ghoshia

      The dening of saying ya muhammed is becuase it is a word for who is present at here and muhammed s a w is alive in his grave but not everywhere as the allah becuase allah is only who is everywhere so this action is commited as shirk its clear and easy if u justify

      • farhan May 20, 2012 at 10:56 pm #

        i dont kno y dey feel sick to say “ya Allah

      • Madina December 16, 2012 at 12:07 pm #

        but it’s ok then for you people to bulldoze our Prophets (peace and blessings be upon him) grave???

  7. Sher-e-Ghousia August 10, 2008 at 10:50 pm #

    Regarding the usage of Urdu, you have misunderstood me. I said that to understand the situation regarding the deobandis, one needs to understand Urdu. The reason is that a slight change in words due to translation will change the meaning. For example, if you want to understand the Jewish texts you will need to understand Hebrew.

    That is why people studying an Alim course learn Arabic in order to understand the texts better.

    Dr Irfan al Alawi, who was a student of the late Shaykh al Haddad (RA) and is part of the famous Alawi household that includes the late Shaykh al Alawi al Maliki (RA) learned Urdu to understand the situation. He has read the original texts in Urdu without any translation errors. Because of this he can clearly see the corruption of the Deobandis.

    More info on Dr al Alawi:

    http://www.islamicpluralism.eu/irfan_bio.html

    http://thesunnivoice.com/2007/05/28/dr-irfan-alawi-speaks/

  8. Sher-e-Ghousia August 10, 2008 at 10:55 pm #

    Regarding the second link listen to it from 5 minutes 30 seconds.

  9. Abdoeragmaan August 14, 2008 at 6:26 am #

    yes brother that is much better. However where I come from we dont have this sunni deobandi split. so if you say sunni to me I thing Ahlus sunnah wal jama’ah
    the deobandi I spoke about defends mawlid publicly over the radio.
    Oh & the article also insults 2 of Sheikh alawi al malikis greatest students. They are also Alawis & dawah is in there blood. In case you didnt know but the Alawi family is resposible for 1/3 of the total muslim population. even some in Haydarbad India.

  10. Sher-e-Ghousia August 14, 2008 at 11:14 pm #

    As’salamu ‘alaykum,

    Alhamdulillah! The Alawi Shaykhs and members have done great work for the Ummah.

    A great piece of work by Shaykh Dr. GF Haddad on this issue. Shaykh Dr. GF Haddad, who is a Murid of Shaykh Nazim al Haqqani and a student of Scholars such as Shaykh Muhhamad al Yaq’oubi, has done an amazing job on this issue. This can be viewed here:

    http://thesunnivoice.com/2007/11/15/the-barelwideobandi-affair/

    Alhamdulilllah, this is one of the best pieces of work on this issue.

  11. Abdoeragmaan August 18, 2008 at 6:43 am #

    YES br. we should rather look for those similarities to unite us instead of small things like you make maulid & that one doest. & you can say ya nabie salaam or you cant. these are small arguments that could have been created by the enemies of islam to brake us & its working. Allah tell us that that you can take all of the hevens & the earth put them together & one La ila ha illah will still out way it. so if the person has this kalimah it should be enough to call him my br. as long as he accepts my Nabie SWA too.
    & perhaps the Imam Ahmed Rida Khan should teach his students love & respect which are the greatest aspects of tassawf. & not to insult great ulamah & da’ee, Habib Umar is no normal man you know.

  12. Merazul August 19, 2008 at 10:34 pm #

    As’salamu ‘alaykum,

    You are right that people need to show respect. However, like all parts of the world there are people who say things they shouldn’t.

    Imam Ahmad Raza (RA) has passed away, so it not his responsibility to teach us but it is the responsibility of all our current Shaykhs and Imams.

  13. Abd Al Mustafa August 20, 2008 at 1:32 am #

    soon enough you will see the tablighis get their own markaz in hadramaut, at which point they will move away from the habaib and start their fitna which is prevalent in the sub-continent and everywhere else in the world where there are deoz…..they will start cursing mawlid amongst other sunni practices, but until then they will participate in mawlid and everything else which the habaib do which deoz don’t normally do.

  14. Abdoeragmaan August 21, 2008 at 10:20 am #

    That’s not true. They have just completed their new markaz in Johannesburg. Even though Johannesburg is the tablighi capital of Africa we still don’t have any major fitnah. Except for that which is spilt over from India. In the India areas you have the fitnah because there you have to fall in either of the two. But for the majority of us we don’t have problems. In my local masjid we have a whole ceremony for the tarawig salah starting with the praises of Rasulullah SWA over the loud speaker, then thikr & salwat between the raka’ats & more thikr & dua after witr. & all the tabligh take part. & when we done everybody sits & they read from the fadhail a’mal.
    How can we claim that they don’t love the Nabi of Allah just because they don’t make maulid which even sagabah never done. We on the other hand we will scream poetry at the top of our voices & chant & do all sorts of thing out of love for Him SWA but we don’t grow our beard. Now ask your self how many of us who keep maulid grow our beards. & ask your self how many of them don’t have beards. The best way to show your love of Rasulullah SWA is not by celebrating his birth but celebrating his life & imitating it. His birth is ok to celebrate but it’s not a must & only way to show your love.
    Now ask your self also why the masses flock to them when they in need of change.

  15. Sher-e-Ghousia August 21, 2008 at 11:03 pm #

    Actually the masses don’t flock to them, they (tabhlighi jama’at) go to the people.

    These are some of the statements of the Deobandi scholars:

    - “Allah can speak lies”. (“Barahine Qaatia” by Khaleel Ambetwi; “Yakrozi” by Ismaeel Dehlwi; “Fatawa Rasheedia” by Rasheed Ahmed Gangohi).

    - The Ummah sometimes supercede the Ambiya in A’maal (Good deeds). (“Tahzeerun Naas” by Qasim Nanotwi)

    - To think of an ox and donkey in Salaah is permissible, but to think of the Prophet (sallal laahu alaihi wasallam) in Salaah is Shirk (Polytheism). (“Seerate Mustaqeem” by Ismaeel Dehlwi)

    - The knowledge of the Prophet is like children and animals. The knowledge of Shaitaan is more than the Prophet. To say that the Prophet possessed ‘Ilm-e-Ghayb or Knowledge of the Unseen, is Shirk. (“Hifzul Imaan” by Ashraf Ali Thanwi; “Barahine Qaatia”; “Fatawa Rasheedia”)

    - The illusion of illusionists are greater than the Miracle of Prophets. (“Mansab-e-Imaamat”)

    How can any person respect people with such sick thoughts?

    The issue is not about Milad/Mawlid, but the Deobandis disrespect towards the integrity and status of the Beloved Prophet (sallal’Lahu ‘alayhi wa’sallam).

  16. Abdoeragmaan August 26, 2008 at 8:30 am #

    Ok but if they flock to the masses & so many of them return, why so then.

    Since your mentioning aqeedah & you say their aqeedah is corrupt. You are implying that they are deviants. Are they kafir. What is your view of kufr. & what is the view of this school that you are defending.

    like I said to follow his SWA sunnah is the best way to show your love for him. I would like to see those books. are there english versions.

  17. Sher-e-Ghousia August 26, 2008 at 8:56 pm #

    As’salamu ‘alaykum,

    It is not up to me to call others kaffir. That is up to the Scholars to decide.

    well, you decide if the above comments are correct.

    If they are not correct then obviously it means that these are deviant views.

    Read this link:

    http://thesunnivoice.com/2007/11/15/the-barelwideobandi-affair/

    It is between an Arab Sunni Scholar and a deobandi.

  18. Abdoeragmaan August 27, 2008 at 7:59 am #

    i would like to see that actual kitabs not anything written by a group which is against them. obviously you would find a lot of hate speach in the article to support the view of the “sunni”. so I would like a list of the books where these statements are made & if in what langauges they come in.

    You did mention that they have a corrupt aqeedah. that statement tells me that you feel that they are a deviant sect which is out of the fold of islam. this I disagree with because like you an me they are ashari or maturidi. what other book of aqeedah do they posses. If they have devient ways but they only a matter of opinion they you cannot say that they have a corrupt aqeedah. did you speak to a deobandi to find out the real resone why this has been said or if there is a comentry explaining these statments. we also get attacked & called mushriks by the wahabis for a simmilar thing. the burda. they say that there are words amounting to shirk in it just because they dont understand & I think that there is a great explaination as to why this was said.

  19. Sher-e-Ghousia August 27, 2008 at 10:31 pm #

    If you read my post again, you will find the names of the Deobandi books. All of these books are written by Deobandi Scholars. The original books are in Urdu, which is why I said it is important to learn Urdu to fully understand the situation.

    The Deobandi scholars who made those statements had many years to say why they said such things, but they failed to do so. This clearly shows their guilt.

    Being Martuidi or Aha’ari doesn’t automatically mean someone is a Sunni. Ask any Scholar and they will say the same.

    I would advise you to stop putting words into my mouth. When have I ever said “they are a deviant sect which is out of the fold of Islam”. So, stop making up such lies.

    I have provided a link written by someone who is neutral and is not from the Indian area. Shaykh G.F Haddad is one the greatest Scholars living today. So, if you don’t want to believe him then thats your choice.

    Let me ask you one question. Do you agree with the statements of the Deobandi shcolars?

  20. Sher-e-Ghousia August 27, 2008 at 10:41 pm #

    The book ‘Hussam ul Harmain’ by Imam Ahmad Raza Khan mentions the deviancy of the Deobandi elders.

    Before you say only one Scholar had this opinion, read this.

    http://www.raza.co.za/Publications/Publications_Satanic%20Scholars.htm

    You will see that the greatest Scholars of Al-Hajiz all signed the fatwa.

  21. Abdoeragmaan August 29, 2008 at 7:10 am #

    You said that they have corrupt aqeedah. When a person has a corrupt aqeedah does it not meant that they are deviant? You also mentioning of a book of Imam Ahmed explaining their deviancy. You just said that you never mentioned that they are deviant. I didn’t mention that you said that they are deviants & out of islam, I merely said that saying that they have a corrupt aqeedah implies this. Read carefully.
    Lets hear what does it mean to be sunni. Clearly I don’t understand. The two aqeedahs mentioned are the two for ahlus sunnah wal jama’ah.
    I do not agree with the statements that you mentioned but I also don’t agree with a lot of things coming from the so called “sunni” side too. Why can’t you guys just find common ground & unite. You have so much in common & very few differences.

  22. Anonymous August 29, 2008 at 8:56 am #

    Errr… are you guys saying that the Deobandis, and the Tablighi Jamaat are NOT Sunnis? I am a bit confused. Please clarify. I don’t know too much about different “groups”, but the deobandis make up a HUGE part of the Muslim world, so I am just a little surprised.

    • Mohammed afzal July 21, 2009 at 1:46 pm #

      You are absolutely right my friend i was at first sunni and found a lot of bepardgi means nude ness and a lot of illeterness in sunni jamaat and causing this they miss guide the poor and illiterate people that dont hear the tablighi people they are magician’ At this time sunni hazrat and all should think that the same blame the kuffare makkah posters on muhammed swallaho alihee wasallam so now think if u all have mind the who is on right place and the same decision i made that the tablighi jamaat is the right and blessed way for the muslims and nonmuslims too please dont blame tablighi jamaat let them do there work which we are not doing let them do please let them do

  23. Sher-e-Ghousia August 29, 2008 at 10:20 am #

    Abdoeragmaan,

    Actually, It’s not me who is saying the Deobandi’s have corrupt beliefs but all the great Imam of Al Hijaz. I’m just repeating what they have said.

    Anyway, lets move on from this and move onto your question about unity.

    We are willing to unite with anyone, but only on the basis that they correct their Aqidah. I’m not willing to unite with anybody that says “The knowledge of the Prophet is like children and animals.” If it was my father who said such a thing I would never speak to him again. The love of the Beloved Prophet (sallal’Lahu ‘alayhi wa’ssalam) is more important than any false unity.

  24. Sher-e-Ghousia August 29, 2008 at 10:22 am #

    Read this paragraph form Ash-Shifa from Imam Qadi Ayad (RA). This book is one of the most famous and popular books in Islamic history, and it was written almost a 1,000 years ago:

    Truly whoever abused the Holy Prophet Muhammad (sallal laahu alaihi wasallam) or ascribed any fault to him or attributed any defect to his family, religion or his habit, or reproached him, or compared the Holy Prophet Muhammad (sallal laahu alaihi wasallam) with any defective thing with the objective of degrading his personality and prestige, he is truly an abusive person and deserves to be executed. We make absolutely no exception to this verdict, whether the insult has been committed intentionally or unintentionally. This has been the verdict of all the Ulama of the Umma from the time of the Companions to the present day.� (Qadi Ayaad, Shifa, Vol. 2, pg. 214)

  25. Sher-e-Ghousia August 29, 2008 at 10:47 am #

    Anonymous,

    The deobandis/tablighis are mainly in the Indian area. There some now in other parts of the world.

    15% follow the Deobandi school in the Indian sub-continent. The subcontinent has 456 million Muslims.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islam_by_country#By_region

    15% of that would be 68.4 million. Even if you add a few million Deobandis’ from around the world the figure would be at maximum of 80 million.

    Accroding to the following there are 1.61 billion Muslims in the world.

    http://www.islamicpopulation.com/

    So, 80 million of 1.61 billion would mean that the Deobandi/Tablighi, rounded up only represent 5 % ( exact is 4.996 %) of the global Muslim population.

    This clearly shows that the Deobandi/Tablighi are a minority group.

    • Mohammed afzal July 21, 2009 at 1:50 pm #

      please dont count the population of muslims count the population of real muslims means ulamaas huffaaz quaaries aamils daaees then u will get the quantity which is absolutly un countable in tablighi and the finger countable for sunni hazraat now count this figure which is real muslim

  26. Anonymous August 31, 2008 at 4:40 am #

    I’m sorry, but where did you get that 15% of Indian subcontinent Muslims are Deobandi?

  27. Sher-e-Ghousia August 31, 2008 at 11:45 am #

    http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/intro/islam-barelvi.htm

    The second to last paragraph reads:

    “Nearly 85% of South Asia’s Sunni Muslims are said to follow the Barelvi school, closer to Sufism. The remaining 15% of Sunnis follow the Deobandi school, more closely related to the conservative practice of Islam”

  28. Sher-e-Ghousia August 31, 2008 at 11:56 am #

    I’m not even including the Shia population into this. If I did, the percentage of deobandis/tablighis worldwide would be below 4%.

    You have to understand that certain people/group may be have a large population where you live, but overall they are small.

    For example, some people think the Salafis (or wahhabis) are a very big portion of the Muslim. However this is incorrect. The Salafis have a lot of petro-dollars from the Saudi government and therefore spend billions on:

    - Television station around the world

    - Printing million of books (mainly through darus-salam)

    - Sending missioneries or Dawa’ah groups to places all around the world to teach their version of Islam

    - Organising large scale events

    People see Salafis on TV, at events, and when they go to a book store most of the books are by Salafi scholars. However, in reality the Salafis are a minority. There are even more Shias then Salafis worldwide. The reason why people don’t know this is because the Shias are not all over the media and don’t spend billions

  29. Abdoeragmaan September 2, 2008 at 5:37 am #

    Look are those books part of the law at Deoband. Is it part of the syllabus. Do they teach from it. I don’t think so because it would have been more famous. There are about 3 very big Deobandi Madaris in Johannesburg alone. About 80% of the a’lims of Johannesburg graduate from them & not one ever went on a public broad cast about these statement.

    I there you go again about them correcting their aqeedah. The statement that you have mentioned are not the basis of the school. If so then we should of heard that “in order to be a true muslim you have to believe this & this & that” but we haven’t. & would seriously like to see a wahabi at a maulid. That doesn’t make sense, I don’t think that dude is a wahabi because that is totally against their believe. They would kill before going to maulids. & if you say they not sunni then what is sunni. All sunni must be ashari or maturidi what special aqeedah is there for a “sunni”. The sunni we all thinking of must be totally different to your views.

    Who are the great imams of Hijaz that you talking about, many of them say that we a kafir for making maulid too. Don’t forget that Qasida Burda is also said to be shirk. But in any event we were not speaking about how bad the deos are but I would like to know why the slander of habib Ali & Umar. That is what started this whole debate. & in another article in this same site you guys praise Habib Ali then why cause all the confusion. Why do you condemn them in one & then prays them in another.

  30. Sher-e-Ghousia September 2, 2008 at 11:27 am #

    The Ulema of al Hajiz I’m referring to are those who lived 100 years ago, when the whole Deobandi controversy started. Also, during that time the Ottoman empire had control of the area, so the Ulema who where there where all Sunnis.

    This link lists some of the Ulema:

    http://www.raza.co.za/Publications/Publications_Satanic%20Scholars.htm

    Remember one thing, the Scholars mentioned in the link where the greatest amongst the Greatest Scholars living during that time.

  31. Sher-e-Ghousia September 2, 2008 at 11:33 am #

    Regarding Shaykh Habib Umar and Shaykh Habib al Jifri, you have misunderstood the article.

    The situation is that the deobandis and wahhabis are using the banner of “unity” to mix with the Habaibs. Shaykh Habib Umar and Shaykh Habib al Jifri were told that this is dangerous as these people will use the blessed Shaykhs name to deceive people.

    For example, If go to a sunni area and say I’m a student of Bin Baaz (wahhabi), people will tell me to get lost. But, if I say I’m with Shaykh Habib Umar and Shaykh Habib al Jifri, then people will think I’m good.

    The Deobandis and Salafis are using the names of Shaykh Habib Umar and Shaykh Habib al Jifri for their own gains.

    The Habaibs have already lost a Masjid to the the Salafis in Hadramount. How many more will they lose?

  32. Sher-e-Ghousia September 2, 2008 at 11:52 am #

    Read the following debates:

    http://www.yanabi.com/forum/messageview.cfm?catid=111&threadid=9660&highlight_key=y

    http://www.yanabi.com/forum/messageview.cfm?catid=27&threadid=21953&highlight_key=y

    If you read this:

    http://thesunnivoice.com/2007/11/15/the-barelwideobandi-affair/

    You would have noticed that the Deobandis side with the salafis on many issues, such as:

    - Saying Ya Nabi (Sallal Lahu Alaihi Wassalam)

    - Ilm e Gayb of the Beloved Nabi (Sallal Lahu Alaihi Wassalam)

    - The Noor of the Beloved Nabi (Sallal Lahu Alaihi Wassalam)

    The Deobandis are degrading the status of the Beloved Nabi (Sallal Lahu Alaihi Wassalam).

  33. Sher-e-Ghousia September 2, 2008 at 11:58 am #

    Great Shayks of our time like Shaykh al Yaqoubi al Hassani, Shaykh bin Yahya al Ninowy, Shaykh Habib al Jifri, Shaykh Habib Umar, Shayk Nazim, Sidi Hamza Yusuf and so on, all:

    - Recite Salawat standing up – http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YfhkOL_Up1Q&feature=related

    - Celebrate Mawlid – http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5n_dikNnsS8

    - Say Ya Rasool’Allah – http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ncQi1FGYL9U

    - Accept Hadir and Nadir for the Holy Prophet (sall’Allahu alayhi wassalam) – Article by an Arab Scholar -http://www.livingislam.org/fiqhi/fiqha_e29.html

    However, if someone in India does this the Deobandis shout “bid’a” and “shirk”. But, when the Arab people do the same, the Deobandis stay quite. Wonder why? Is it because they (the deobandis) will get exposed?

    • Madina December 16, 2012 at 12:27 pm #

      …and their funding will be cut.

  34. Oh What Have We Come To September 2, 2008 at 9:32 pm #

    Unless and until we put our differences, dare I say engineered by the kuffar, behind us and unite we will be the laughing stock of the world. The ummah will remain an open invitation to the rest of the world to mock invade and destroy at their leisure. Why oh why don’t we see this, why are we that arrogant, that stubborn? I get called a wahhabi by ‘barelvis’, a barelvi by wahhabis, before I used to laugh, now I just cry. And how dare anyone level accusations against the one group who are trying hard to revive iman in the masses of muslims. Who leave the comfort of their homes to learn iman, and to advocate iman. Brothers these days we have enough knowledge, its our iman that’s lacking.Just imagine the Prophet SAW and how hard He struggld for us, and this is what we have come to? And brothers if I’m wrong please tell me, in fact all I ask of you, say a prayer for Allah to guide me.
    Zaid

  35. Abdoeragmaan September 4, 2008 at 6:46 am #

    “zombi like fashion, giving presidence to actions, ‘unity’, so called dawa over the aqeedah of the Ahl-e-Sunnah.” What is so wrong about da’wa.
    “These new recruits after been brain washed in Tarim are then followed up in the UK by making them feel the elected elite of 1 of 5, chosen people of the Habiab to extend the Dawa.”whats wrong with this should we spread this deen.
    “This way the newly recruited semi-tableeghi now becomes a dedicated zombified machine. It is time for the Sunni’s to stand up and reject Habib Omar position. TJ, Deos, Wahabi are deviant, we need to safeguard our imaans and not to mingle with the deviants.” & you say there is no slander.
    “Say no to the new sect of neo-tableeghi’s, reject the new age unity sect in the name of mercy, mercy, love, love, Mawlid, Mawlid and Dawa Dawa…”where is the evil in any of this.
    “This TJ strategy has proven so successful, much of Indonisa has been impacted due to Habaib connections. To the extent one of the senior Habiab in Indonsia has now become a Salafi. A masjid in Tarim has been taken by the Wahabi’s.” which masjied & which Habib in Indonesia give us proof.
    “Many senior scholars have bought this to light to Habib Omar and Habib Ali Jafri but they prefer to turn the blind eye, at the expense of thousands of people having thier imans robbed by the parasites of TJ.”you guys are fooled & confused. Iman taken away by whom & how. Iman is in the hands of Allah. If you want to check what is iman taken away I will send you something from the madeni markaz of dawat islami which is considered shirk by many.

    “TJ and Neo-TJ (Unity Habaib sect) becoming increasingly impossible to destinguish. Be warned.”
    Once again more slandering towards the Habaib. Get a live.

  36. Abdoeragmaan September 4, 2008 at 6:51 am #

    Truly whoever abused the Holy Prophet Muhammad (sallal laahu alaihi wasallam) or ascribed any fault to him or attributed any defect to his family, religion or his habit, or reproached him, or compared the Holy Prophet Muhammad (sallal laahu alaihi wasallam) with any defective thing with the objective of degrading his personality and prestige, he is truly an abusive person and deserves to be executed. We make absolutely no exception to this verdict, whether the insult has been committed intentionally or unintentionally. This has been the verdict of all the Ulama of the Umma from the time of the Companions to the present day.� (Qadi Ayaad, Shifa, Vol. 2, pg. 214)

    so here is the fatwa that you gave & they such a small minority then why dont you sunnis stop talking crap & wage war. what are you afraid of. or are you afraid that you could by wrong. stop barking & bite if you think you right. or just find common ground & stop causing confusion.

    why does everthing from india have to be a form of extremism. that why I love the Habaib-they teach the radical middle way. moderate islam. benefit from all.

  37. Abdoeragmaan September 4, 2008 at 6:52 am #

    i agree with Br ZAid

  38. Sher-e-Ghousia September 7, 2008 at 10:26 pm #

    Abdoeragmaan,

    It is clear that you already made your mind up before these conversations even started. End of the day, you are entitled to your opinion and I to mine.

    Before I go remember one thing, even the Habaibs, including Shaykh Habib Umar and Shaykh Habib al Jifri accept the ruling in the book ‘Ash-Shifa’ by Imam Qadi Ayad (RA).

    May Allah Aza wa jal increase out love for His Beloved (sall’Allahu Ta’ala ‘alayhi wa’alihi wa’sallam). May we gain from great Scholars like Shaykh al Yaqoubi al Hassani, Shaykh bin Yahya al Ninowy, Shaykh Habib al Jifri, Shaykh Habib Umar and Shayk Nazim al Haqqani. Ameen.

  39. Sajid September 8, 2008 at 11:47 am #

    Salaam All,

    I have read the few of the above comments. The only thing I will add to all the above statment is, Prophet Mohummed (PBUH) said “Most of the people will go to hell because they will follow mankind not the Quran & Sunnah”.

    Before Prophet Mohummed (PBUH) died, he left for us was 1Quran, Sunnah & 1 religion, which is Islam.

    The one who follows Islam is call “MUSLIM”, lets call ourself Muslim & follow the Quran & Sunnah, rather than calling oneself name like TJ and Neo-TJ, Deobandi, Wahabi ect.

    Jazakal- Khair

    Allah hafiz

  40. Abdoeragmaan September 10, 2008 at 1:38 pm #

    I would still like to know what masjid was taken over by the wahabis. & which wahabi was from the habib. & by the way wahabis & deos are to different things. that is why the tabligh jamaat still practice in a bit of silence in saudi arabia. when you mix up deo & wahabi its the same as the mistake that the wahabis do when they dont know the diff between a bid’a & shirk & diff between shirk & kufir.

    I agree with sajeed we need to settle our diff & find common ground unite.

    hay whats up with the chrismas look of this site.

  41. Abdoeragmaan September 12, 2008 at 2:29 pm #

    o just wanted to say that the tabligh are operating for a long time in Tarim. Habib Umars father was a close frient of Muhadith sheikh Zakariya. just by the way Habib spent time with the Jamat also.

  42. Sher-e-Ghousia September 15, 2008 at 1:33 pm #

    Sidi Abdoeragmaan,

    You seem to be missing the point. Defending and protecting the honor and status of The Prophet (sallallahu alayhi wassalam) is more important than any Shaykh.

    If Shaykh Habin Umar spent time with the Shia, will that make the Shia ok? Of course not.

    As I said, these 2 blessed Shyakhs have got their ways of doing things, and other Shaykhs have got their ways of doing things.

    Although I don’t agree with the Habaibs interaction with the Deobandis, end of the day it their decision. May Allah Aza wa jal grant the lovers of the The Prophet (sallallahu alayhi wassalam) success. Ameen.

  43. Sher-e-Ghousia September 15, 2008 at 1:41 pm #

    Mufti Ebrahim Desai, who is one the biggest Deobandi scholar has written this answer to a question regarding tawassul.

    http://www.askimam.org/fatwa/fatwa.php?askid=ed99380c83b493b53bd0d3d39c2effb7

    The deobandi scholar accuses the Ahle Sunnah Scholars, especially the Great Shaykh Muhammad al Alawi al Maliki al Makki (RA) of committing “Shirk”.

    The Deobandis are accusing the Teacher of both Shaykh Habib Umar and Shaykh Habib al Jifri of committing “Shirk”.

    What do you say to this?

    Shirk means to associate partners with Allah Ta’ala. So, if someone accuses another person of shirk, then they are indirectly calling them a non-muslim.

    PS: Apologies beforehand, but do excuse me for the remaining days of Ramdhan.

  44. myseterious September 21, 2008 at 3:30 pm #

    As salaam walay kum

    All praise is due to Allah, and may Almighty is he Bless our liege lord salAllaahualayhewasalim and his family and companioins, ameen

    Masha Aaallaah I am very pleased to see that the truth is finally coming out about the situation in Tarim, I have just returned ffrom the blessed around two weeks ago and I must say what sher e ghousia is saying is true.

    As for the brother from johanesburg you seem very closed minded and i must say that the brother’s that are bangng on about on 1/3 of the world’s muslim are scholars from tarim?

    were do you get your info from?

    1. the mosque you are talking about in tarim is called masid abraar, it’s a five minute walk from masjid rawtha.

    2. the ulemah that are upset with the habib ali asnd habib umar include habib salim al shartalli of tarim and habib Zain of madinah.

    3. the ba alwai tariqa return’s to muhajir eeas al iraqi so those that constantly bang on about the tarimi’s were cause of conversion of a third of the world’s muslim’s need to do your research as it was through him that the ba alawi tariqa began.

    as for deobandi scholars and their belief like the brother mentioned the gibril haddad is very factaul and an eyeopener for those searching for the tuth.

    The problem we have is not the deoband’s problem is there refusal to let go of scholars who on consensus of the ulema committed kufr, 301 of india and 32 from the arab world.

    As for explaination of the comment’s made Imam Ahmad ridha wrote leeters to the deobandi scholar’s at the time for 12 year’s aking them to do so, or withdraw from publication of these books which was met without a reply from the deobandi corner.

    As for those who have question’s search for the truth in your answer’s.

    Unfortunately we talk about unity but we don’t ven understand the ideal;’s of unity, the prophet salAllaahualayhewasalim has informed us that the jews divided into 71 sects, the christians divided into 72 sects and my nation will divide into 73, all of whom will be in the hellfire except for one, let’s ask Allaah to make us amongst that very group ameen.

    Please remember this pauper in your prayer’s.

  45. Sher-e-Ghousia September 24, 2008 at 7:26 pm #

    Walaykum as’salaam,

    ‘myseterious’, well said.

  46. Abdoeragmaan October 7, 2008 at 10:36 am #

    1. I hope you all had a glorious Eid & a wonderful spiritual Ramadhan. Ramadhan kept me very busy hence the late response. Algamdulillah. Its nice to see that the tone has dropped it must have been shaytan hyping us up. Allah hoe a’lam.
    To protect the honor of our Nabi SWA is of utmost important but it it necessary to kill for it like some people have done after the cartoon thing. Some retaliated by insulting the mother of Nabi Isa AS. We must remember when Rasulullah SWA was insulted in his own time that he never when on a rampage. How many entered Islam after insulting him just because of his mercy & kindness even to them.
    Shaykh Umar didn’t spend time with the shi’a & that is way off & it isnt a good example. & I am not saying that tabligh is good because Habib umar spent time with them. These are from my personal experiences & I know the tabligh before I even heard of habib Umar or Tarim for that matter. We just grew up making the Moulid & the Ratibul haddad as it is part of South Africa culture. We just happy to know the roots of our culture. As I said, these 2 blessed Shyakhs have got their ways of doing things, and other Shaykhs have got their ways of doing things.
    do You really think that the Deos hate Rasulullah SWA if they preach so strongly about trying to imitate his life & practicing on his sunnah. Like I said earlier that is the best way to show love for him. What the Deos are against is that people pay more attention to the maulids & the mazars than they do to there sallah & their Allah. Who do should you love more Allah or his Rasul SWA. & people of subcontinent have shown that they love our Nabi SWA so much that they would neglect their salah just to praise him. & this is the case with most sunnis all over the world. Even a friend of mine who is a staunch “sunni” told me this.
    I don’t really accept everything that come from Deoband scholars. I am shafi & they don’t really know my madhab even though they might be muftis. I think the tawassul thing is over rated, so what if he says it is shirk someone else might have a different opinion. These muftis pass fatwas based on what they know. & in this case its baste on what comes from subcontinent once again. People actually go & ask not for intersession but the wali or saint him self (please give me this & that or for luck.) I think the interpretation of tawassul of a deo subcontinent muslim is different to that of the arabs.
    Shirk means to associate partners with Allah Ta’ala. So, if someone accuses another person of shirk, then they are indirectly calling them a non-muslim. No not actually shirk like kufr has levels & most of us are guilty of a little of both we just don’t see it.
    I didn’t say that the 1/3 or the worlds scholars are from tarim but 1/3 of the worlds muslim came to islam via hadramawt. You can check an article about habib A’li on sunni word press I don’t have the exact link but search it. & the proof is in the pudding (Malaysia,indonesia, Zan Zibar, & lots more including South Africas minority.)& I am not closed minded remember I am the one looking for commonalities so that we can unit. If I was close minded I would even considered deoband at all.
    1. the mosque you are talking about in tarim is called masid abraar, it’s a five minute walk from masjid rawtha. Is the masjid Deobandi or salafi/wahabi.
    2. the ulemah that are upset with the habib ali asnd habib umar include habib salim al shartalli of tarim and habib Zain of madinah. What are they upset about & some proof please.
    3. the ba alwai tariqa return’s to muhajir eeas al iraqi so those that constantly bang on about the tarimi’s were cause of conversion of a third of the world’s muslim’s need to do your research as it was through him that the ba alawi tariqa began. Yes he is the father of the family but the tariq only gets known after him if Im not mistaken his son or grandson. Ali Ba Alawi Allah have mercy on all of them. & the d’awah of the alawis only gained momentum long after his death. With the Imams Atas & haddad. Before them their was da’wa but not on the level of these two Imams.
    Every group will claim to be of that one sect that will be the true sect promised Jannah but think deep inside do you think we are from that sect. lets leave the deos, the tabligh & the Habaib for a while & lets tackle the “sunnis” for a while not the ahlus sunnah but the “sunni” from the subcontinent. Lets bring out the floors & see where it lies in sharia & then we can see who exactly is bringing down the aqeedah of Islam.

  47. Naqshbandiy October 7, 2008 at 1:59 pm #

    http://www.hizmetbooks.org/Religion_Reformers_in_Islam/ref-58.htm

    The ‘ulama’ of Samasta Kerala have opened jihad against them by displaying their heretical books, beliefs and background

    In the Shawwal 1399 A.H. (1979) and following issues of the monthly periodical Al-muallim which is published by the Jamiyat al-’ulama’ called “Samasta” located in the Malappuram City of the Kerala State, South India, Mawlawi Abu Ahmad, one of the Ahl as-Sunnat scholars, wrote under the heading ‘Disclosure of the Suspicions about Jamaat at-Tabligh’: “Various groups of people have appeared in North India who say that they will renew the religion and disseminate it everywhere. Many people, judging them only by their ostensible words, follow them without investigating their and their founders’ faith. Upon seeing their inner nature, many of them have departed and expose their lies and tricks. History has witnessed many such heretics, who are slaved by their nafs and vicious thoughts. They have interpreted the documents of Islam wrongly. They dissent to the rotten principles of Ibn Taymiyya and Muhammad ibn ‘Abd al-Wahhab an-Najdi. Those who know little about religious knowledge think that they are on the right path and believe that they serve Islam. One of these heretical groups is that which follow the path put forward by Mawlana Ilyas. They call themselves ‘Jamaat at-tabligh.’ They travel around the world. With their worship, attractive speech and attire, they look like religious, pious people. They never speak about their beliefs and the path they follow. They began to spread their seed in Kerala, too. The ‘ulama’ of Samasta Kerala have opened jihad against them by displaying their heretical books, beliefs and background and their founders’ life-stories and path. Studying them, they understood their artifice and that they were ahl al-bidat. They issued the fatwas that they have dissented from the righteous path of Ahl as-Sunnat wal-Jamaat and that they were on the route of bidat and dalala (heresy). These fatwas of the ‘ulama’ of southern and northern India and Ceylon Island became an ijma’.

  48. Naqshbandiy October 7, 2008 at 2:03 pm #

    What follows is a summary of the key points mentioned in Sayyid Salim bin Umar bin Muhammad bin Salim bin Hafizh’s (Habib Umar’s son) recent visit to Bangladesh where he partook in the annual Tabligh Jamat ijtima. It is one of the clearest examples of Dar al Mustafa’s strong links, praise, reliance and appreciation of Tablighi Jamat.

    Delivered Thursday 7th February after Salat Az-Zuhr to the students of Dar al Mustafa:

    He travelled to Bangladesh with Jamat memebers from Yemen’s city port Hudayda. The group was headed by one 95+ year old Muhammad Abdul Wahabb who had spent 6 years from the end of Muhammad Ilyas Kandahlavi’s (notorious founder of Tabligh Jamat) life with him.

    Sayyid Salim mentioned that in Tariqa the Jamat is mostly Qadiri, that they are people of Tariqa and are Ahl as Sunnah wal Jama’ah, but hide their outward links with Tasawuff so as to be accessible to all.

    He then mentioned that Kandahlavi wrote Hayatus Sahaba and Sayyid Salim’s grandfather (Al-Habib Muhammad bin Salim bin Hafiz rahmatullah alayh) wrote the chapter headings and arranged the chapters in the book and that the Tabligh still have a copy mentioning this to this day.

    His grandfather spent 7 months in Nizam ud Din, the world headquarters of Tabligh in India as well as visiting Pakistan and Bangladesh.

    That letters of correspondence between his grandfather and Kandahlavi are still kept by them.

    He mentioned that the ijtima is 3 days and centres on building Iman, Ikhlas nearness to Allah and D’awa

    550 Jamats left Hudayda and 200,000 left Bangladesh too various parts of the world after the Ijtima.

    That 7 million people normally attend, but due to rain this year it was a 2 day event with 3 million.

    He attended that Majlis as Shura with the grandson of Yusuf Kandahlavi and that it is a gathering based on the Sunnah.

    That he came across 5 Indonesian Dar al Mustafa graduates at the Ijtima.

    All types of people attend Shiah, Sufi, Takfiri and no ikhtilaf is discussed. People go out on tabligh and over time become rectified.

    That his father, Habib Umar attened 13 years ago and that before Sayyid Salim left for Bangladesh his father told him to look at the systematic layout of the ijtima and notice how it organisationally resembles the Hajj of the past.

    He then mentioned that Kandahlavi founded the Tabligh to revive the Muslim Ummah.

    That people from all across the world attend with various of knowledge from laymen to Muftis.

    That he was asked to speak to the Arab delegates on the second day and spoke to them about the need for D’awah and avoiding differences.

    He said that Bangladesh is mostly Ahl as Sunnah wal Jamah but there now Salafis and Takfiris there also.

    At the end of the gathering he mentioned how the Dar al Mustafa graduates he met seemed unable to transfer the manhaj they had learnt in the Dar into practical teaching. Many students could not even convey and explain basic concepts such as Qurb ilAllah and Akhlaqaue norcan they explain the Ba Alawi Tariqa and seem to know little about it.

    That students need to be more aware of other sufi orders amd groups in their areas and how to deal with them.

    He was asked what are the benefits of Tablighs 6 points to which he replied it is a Manhaj of Ahl as Sunnah like the Ba Alawiyya emphasising Ilm Suluk D’awah Wala and Amal.

  49. Kamran Qureshi May 19, 2009 at 9:36 am #

    Brothers Assalamoalaikum Wrahmatullah Wabaraktuhu,

    I think you brothers should appreciate the efforts of Tablighi Jamaat. This is our main weakness as an Ummah. This is where our enemies take advantage of us. We shouldn’t bicker over petty differences and should support each other in calling others towards Islam.

    Jazak Allah Khairan

  50. IHSAAN July 23, 2009 at 4:33 pm #

    Brother Sher-e-Ghousia, Brother Naqshbandiy, Do both of you Know that Moulana Alawi Al Maliki (ra) got ijazah from 3 Deobandi Ulamas including Shaikhul Hadees Moulana Zakariya Kandalawi (ra) the one who have the Ilm of Kashf .. he is the nephew of Moulana Ilyas (ra) the first Ameer of Thablegu jamathu. Moulana Zakriya Kandalavi Al Madani was teaching Hadees in Masjidu Nabawi shreef and He passed away and buried in Jannathul baquee, he who wrote Fadailey Aumal which is the famouse book reading in Thablegu Trips in their Tha’aleem. Shaikh Alavi Al Maliki Says about Moulana Zakariya kandalavi al Madani calling him (addressing him) Sayyidina wa Imamuna in the biography. That Shaikh Sayyid Alawi Al Maliki (ra) given IJAZA for the Leader of Samastha Kerala Jameeathul Ulama Kerala, India Shaikh Aboobakr Kandapuram . All What I wrote here are the truth. Go to the links below to see the Teachers ( shyokhs of Sayyid alavi al Maliki (ra) from Indian Subcontinent and Pak .. you can find More than 3 Deobandi Sholars are the teacher of him and one of them was Shaikh Zakriya Kandalavi who had a Thousands of Mureeds around the globe. So please Give up the blind follow of Brelvi ideas against Great Deobandi Ulamas. Ahamed Raza Khan Brelvi distorted the Aquida of Deobandi Ulamas and presented in front of Ulama of Haramin shareefain to do thakfir on them but Ulama of Haramain said bad words about that efforts ( especially Imam barzanji (ra) mufti of shafi in madina Munawwara ). The Samastha of Kerala is following what Brelwis Talked about ( the distorted texts as it is) againist Thabligis and deobandis in Kerala they still don’t know what happend to Brelvis when they made thakfir againist Deobandi Ulamas and what was the stand for the Ulama of Haramain. And Their’s Another fact that The authorized speaker of Samastha Kerala Ponmala Abdul Qadir Moulavi is a Deobandi Scholar.. He Only Have the vast knowledge to talk about the Thasawwuf, Aquida and Fiqh when new issues coming ( such as new Thareeqath are rooting out) in Kerala state, Because he is a Deobandi Scholar his knowldge is vast.. Why Samasta Lying down and Spiting over? it will come down to your face.. and they still fighting againist each other AP Group Vs EK Group. Dakshina ( another Sunni Group of Kerala ) Understood and they are Supporting Thablegu work in Kerala state.

    Thablegu Jamathu Spread all over the world Makkah and Madina are the centre (Markaz) of the Dawa work now, in france their are 3000 Mosques, in UK Dewesbury their’s a lot of people gathering for it. and a new Markaz is coming near feature next to the Olimpic Stadium the biggest Mosque in Europe Insha Allah, a lots of Non-muslims become muslims, a lots of Muslims strongly keeping their faith and Practicing Amal to enter the Heaven, All this changes happening because of Thablegu Jamat ( the effort of Renewing the Faith). What they are trying to do is to giving life back for the 5 Amal in every mosques in worldwide (that’s called Masjid war Jmathu and Amal) that was the Amal once wenton in Makkah and Madina Munawwara still some of them are existing,(do daily Mashoora about the People and decide to meet them for their Spiritual developments ( it’s known as Khusoosi Gusth in urdu ( doing dawa for a Specific Person as decided in Mashoora)), Always be one Halqa in the mosque who teaching (Eemaan and Yaqueen) Quran And Hadees and the life of Prophet Muhammed (sa) (like Ahlu suffa), Do 2 Gust ( Gusth means making round to invite the people to islam)one gust in the Proper mosque of you, and in the other Guest in the Mosque of your neighbour hood also) , Make ready a group of people from your mosque to travel and preach near or far areas( Similar to Prophet (sa) went to Thaif for Dawa) and that was the reason Islam spread to the whole world, Those was the Amal happend in makkah and Madina in the bigining of Islam but unfortunatly it disappeared. Before the Imam Mahdi’s Arrival the whole muslims will Unite inshaa Allah, See the Hadees in Mishakath Masabih, Muslim ummath will do the Job of rasool ( sa) and sahaba Once again before the End of the world, then the whole world will live with the real life of Sahaba once again ((ra) ajmaeen) and thus Allah’s Help will come to the Muslims Ummah. Thablegu’s front row Ulamas are doing this effort according to the clear guidance, and based on Quran and Sunnah… they are preparing Muslim Ummah for an Aim which Allah wanted to be. Brothers so Please be the part of them, Atleast Don’t Oppose them please.. the people opposing them are not knowing the reality. Many People lived the life of Sunnah and passed away in good situations because of the Thablegu work in front of my eyes, for example Moulana Abdul Qadir Pulippara Kerala was one of the front row worker and was a great sholar of Thablegu and Thasawwuf, He resigned his Goverment Job and went to Darul Uloom Deoband Earned Knowldge and worked as a Daaiee in Thablegu Jamathu ( He who translated Fadailey Aumal in Malayalam ( the language of Kerala) he was very strict in each and every sunnah of Prophet Mohammed (sa) and he passed away at 63 yrs old inside the Mosque after opening fast of Arafath saying Alllah… Allah… ( Death of 63 is a luck from Allah Subhan huwa Tha’ala, ( Abubaker Siddiq (ra) sayyidna Umar (ra) Sayyidna Ali (ra) Imam Bukhari (ra) are Passed away in the same age as prophet Mohammed (sa) with the sunnah of Sixty Three. Moulana Ina’amul Hassan (ra) th 3rd Amir of Thablegu Jamathu (real Light in his face) Passed away on a Muharram 10. Many Other workers of Thablegu I saw them passed away in a good situations.
    And One thing more just let you know only in two places i saw the rain of Qabooliyathu from Allah from the gathering of Muslims:
    1 In Arafa while we performing Hajj after we leave from the Arafa to musdalifah their’s Rain of Qabooliyathu ( means Allah accepted the gathering of the people and Forgiven them)

    2 All Big Ijitima ( Gathering ) of thablegu after the Last Dua ( supplication finish) their will be rain .. I witnessed Many times in my life in Thablegu Ijithimas.

  51. IHSAAN July 23, 2009 at 4:43 pm #

    Ilmul Kashf (( same as Imam Abu Hanifa (ra) He can see others sins washing out when they do wudu, finally he prayed to Allah to take out this Ilmul Kashf from him). See the below link in Arabic talking about his Roohani Qualities proves he was the Shaikh of Murabbi with High Qualities of Thasawwuf remembering the Ulama of Khairul Quroon ( 300 yrs from the Prophet (sa) period)

    http://elsayedrazek.maktoobblog.com/1372285/%D8%B3%D9%84%D8%B3%D9%84%D8%A9-%D8%B1%D8%AC%D8%A7%D9%84-%D8%B9%D8%B1%D9%81%D8%AA%D9%87%D9%85-%D9%84%D9%82%D8%A7%D8%A6%D9%8A-%D8%A8%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%B4%D9%8A%D8%AE-%D9%85%D8%AD%D9%85%D8%AF-%D8%B2%D9%83/

  52. suhail August 19, 2009 at 4:07 am #

    assalamu alikum brother ihsan..

    i am from kerala.. and follow thasawwuf and auliyaekiram.. i also have the same opinion what you have on tabliq jamath.. can i please contact with you?
    if u see this.. can you please send me a reply to ashiqeerasool@gmail.com

    i am waiting for it

    assalamu alikum

  53. IHSAAN August 27, 2009 at 2:15 am #

    Shaikh Alawi Al Maliki (ra) Praising Moulana Zakriya kandhalawi …….

    • Shahnawaz warsi August 27, 2009 at 7:20 pm #

      Dear Ihsaan we dont promotes and Publish Propganda materials.Please give some live comments on articles.

      • IHSAAN August 27, 2009 at 10:37 pm #

        Shahnawaz Warsi, So How did you allowed Sher-e-Ghousia to write and Spread Misunderstanding and Ignorance to this Blog? You Allowed him with Links to the Ignorance and Distorted the Truth. He Is Critizising the Great Dawa Work of Prophets and Sahaba.. He Criticizing and Writing the Lies againist the great Ulama of the time, as what Brelvis did before. The Highest Ulama of Haramain Faced and Given real Answers for the Takfir of Brelvis. Why Brelvis Hiding the truth and spreading misunderstanding against Deobandi Ulamas? You allowed him with links of slanders and lies . So i have to give proves against to those Slanders to the Blog readers for the better understanding. Why don’t you let me to Prove myself with links ? while you allowing him to do so? it’s not the way ..please Brother .. this is the Deen of Allah.. Thablegu is Spreading whole world for a Better future of Muslim ummah which allah subhanawa tala already decided, Tablegu running whole world according to the guidance and the real Way (sunnah) of Prophet mohammed (sa)’s. They Started 5 Amal of Masjidwar ( as happend in Makkah and Madinah once) in the land of Where Esa Alaihissalam is going to come once again. Aqaabir of Thablegu is working under of the clear vision. If you listen the speaches of Moulana Umar Palampuri (ra) , you will understand the truth. It’s the time of unity of Muslim ummah for a Big Aim to reach, a Big goal to reach. Habib al Jefry (ra) and Big Ulama of this world they understood that. So they Started thablegu in the blessed land of Yemen. Why this Brelvis brothers getting Jealous about the spread of Thablegu? The Biggest Gathering of Muslim Ummah After hajj is Thablegu Ijitima. Allah’s Unseen ( gaybi) help is with Jamathu Thablegu. I want to pass the true message to the muslim ummah about the significance of thablegu, why they are doing this without any publicity or medias, only awaiting the reward of allah.. because What Prophet Mohammed (sa) warned about the end of the world is very near and they are preparing this ummah for a Goal. So Please let me pass the true message to the readers. jazakallah Khair.

      • Shahnawaz warsi August 31, 2009 at 9:49 pm #

        Ihsaan Said .-
        ”The Highest Ulama of Haramain??? Faced and Given real Answers for the Takfir of Brelvis????. Why Brelvis Hiding the truth and spreading misunderstanding against Deobandi Ulamas? ??????
        Please prove it here .OK Where and when and with names of those Ulemas?

        Actually u are in the Influence of Wahabi Najdis who spread Slander and Lies .
        The fact is that the Takfeer was done on all gustakh of Deoband like Ashrafeli Thanwi,Qasim Nanotwi,Rashid A.Gangohi etc.

        And for Ur Favourite Tablighi Jamaat
        Read this Hadeeth-

        Hazrat Ali (Radiallhu Anhu) once narrated: “I swear by Allah that to fall from the sky to the Earth is very simple for me, but to utter one false word in reference to the Holy Prophet (Sallal Laahu Alaihi Wasallam) is a very difficult and impossible task for me.”
        Hazrat Ali(Radiallhu Anhu) then narrated as follows:
        “I heard the Holy Prophet (Sallal Laahu Alaihi Wasallam) as saying that as the Day of Qiyamah approaches there will appear a group of youths with a low mental capacity and understanding, apparently they will talk of good but their Imaan will not go beyond their throat and they will leave the true Deen like an arrow leaves the prey. Wherever you find them, you should make Jihaad with them. (Bukhari Shareef, pp/1024)

        Moreover Sher-e-Ghousia is the Moderator and He is Lion of Ahle Sunnah and has written what is Haq.

  54. Haider September 1, 2009 at 8:28 pm #

    Shahnawaz Warsi Sahib, I must commend your efforts. An excellent reply.

    Ihsaan – My comments are backed up by others, such as ‘Myseterious’, who has even been to Yemen and has firsthand experience of what is happening there.

    The references are from various sources. From Sunni websites, non-Sunni websites, Governmental websites, Neutral websites, and so forth. How can links such as these be based on propaganda? The links are there for people to visit and make their own minds up.

    Surely, providing good references is much better that rambling on about one’s own personal opinions.

    Ya Waris Madad!

  55. ABD AR RASOOL April 5, 2010 at 9:42 am #

    Assalam,
    There are huge number of proofs saying very clearly that TABLEIGH JAMAAT is a Stupid Jamaat. These people started their career on 1925 in INDIA issuing Fatwa against INDIAN SUNNI Muslims as they oppose Imperialism. This group was previously funded by BRITISH COLONIALISTS and now by INDIAN MUSHRIKS(HINDUS) and by Jews. A people started in 1925 AD will not go to Jannah but a group which was Started BY OUR BELOVED PROPHET will go to heaven. Remember there will be 73 groups coming in ISLAM and 72 will go to HELL AS PER OUR BELOVED PROPHET’S HADITH. If this one group is Tableigh which was started in 1925AD, then it means that those MUSLIMS who came before 1925AD will go to HELL which is highly IMPOSSIBLE. So, as per this HADITH, this Tableigh is a stupid KAFIR group founded by the following KAFIR JEWS:
    1. ILYEAS,
    2. ASHRAF ALI TANWI,
    3. KALIL AHMED AMBETWI,
    4. RASHID AHMED GANGODRI,
    5. ISMAIL TEHLAWI,
    6. KAFIR ZAKARIA,
    7. KASIM NANOTWI, ETC..,

    and the Main HEAD is IBLIS.

    Please do not fall into this stupid groups and do not loose your IMAN. There is a KUFR Fatwa issued by great IMAMS OF MAKKAH AND MADINAH at 1920′s when WAHABI did not rule SAUDI. Please follow the link containing the KUFR Fatwa against KAFIR TABLEIGH PEOPLE.

    http://www.mail-archive.com/islah-net@yahoogroups.com/msg02085.html

    It clearly mentions why it was given and why we should not join those stupid groups.

    • Mohammad_SK June 9, 2010 at 10:42 am #

      Salam Alaikum,

      Even, I have objection on some of the teaching of Deoband Ulemas.
      Mainly, the book called “Fadail e Amal”. This book must not be part of Muslim Ummah. This book carries extremely wrong teachings.

      But, I must say that it is not good to keep calling every one Kifir, Mushrik as you did.

      What, we need to do is to worry about them.
      We should have communication, dialogue, debate with them.

      We don’t have the right to label any one as Kifir or Mushrik.
      It is the right of Allah SWT.

      Our job is to call every one to “Shiratal Mustaqim”,
      If he is Muslim our call will be considered as “calling for Hidayah” (Watawaso Bisabr),
      If No-Muslim, same will be considered as “call for Dawah” (Watawso BilHaque).

      Jazak Allahu Khairan.

  56. mohammed ayaz April 10, 2010 at 4:18 pm #

    mardudo se allah ko dozakh bhi to bharni hai.

  57. 3thm4n September 27, 2010 at 11:54 pm #

    People spend so much time idly criticizing deobandis/tablighis instead of doing good a’maal and worrying about their aakhirat. On the other hand, I don’t hear so much commotion (and takfir) on the deobandi/tablighi side. In fact, they seem to be more concerned with actually doing good a’maal to please Allah (SWT).
    So what can I say. The proof is in the pudding.

  58. casser amerol November 7, 2010 at 1:42 pm #

    Jamaat tableegh arrived in the Philippines and we see no wrong aqidah in this reformist movement. only those who refused to do majahada and those who are trying to collect more wealth in this world are opposing Tableegh. Another group who are opposing the da’wat tableegh are the few group of Ulama who are being paid as missionaries from saudia arabia and are focusing their efforts in arabic schools. Now despite the efforts to block the da’wat tableegh, the latter group is now advancing da’wat Ilallah to every corner of the world. alhamdulillah, when tableegh arrived here in the Philippines, our Masjid were properly cleaned and managed.

  59. casser amerol November 7, 2010 at 1:54 pm #

    For those who are blindly destroying Jamaat Tableegh, we advise you try to go even for a 3 day horoj with tableegh jamaat before you criticize the group. I swear, with your destructive unfounded remarks against Tableegh, you owe istigfar to Allah and you need to ask forgiveness to every tableegh member before you can be accepted to Jannah. You transgressed their Haqq. For your lies, you are sinners. I have finished Rabi idadee in Arabic and I joined the Daawat . I see no wrong here. The accusation that Tableegh in India are praying in some graves is total falsehood. Masha Allah.

    • Shahnawaz warsi November 8, 2010 at 4:41 pm #

      DO u Know the founders of Tablighi Jamaat or their real Aqida?
      They have done grave Insults in the court of beloved prophet Muhammad s.a.w.
      This is the only reason why we are against it.
      The Jamaat which has corrupt belief and Aqida can never be entered in the Jannah.
      It was started in India.we have their real Aqida in Urdu which have really wrong and language which is against Islam. U should try to search their Aqida first and why Muslims are against their Movement .

      I hope u understands

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  61. Anwar Khan December 7, 2010 at 10:50 am #

    Tabligh Jamaat = Taliban. We must stop them in their tracks. Too many persons on this site who thinks that Tabligh Jamaat is harmless. I have yet to observe any group of Tabligh Jamaat sit in mosque while Mawlid proceedings are on. Please dont give misinformation.

  62. Maximo Spinelle May 11, 2012 at 12:01 pm #

    May Allah swa give the habibs long live in this dunia. They are the best Muslim in the world. My dream is to send my son to dar Al-Mustafa.

  63. javed November 19, 2012 at 1:13 pm #

    Ahsan is winner and u people stop him bcos u cant answer him
    haq rise up with help of Allah(swt)

  64. flaming falcon April 26, 2013 at 1:18 pm #

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