Ahle Hadiths Fitnah in Gujrat

Guj HC approached on whether eating ‘niaz’ is permitted Submitted by admin3 on 27 July 2009 – 9:47pm. Crime/Terrorism Indian Muslim By TwoCircles.net Staff Correspondent, Ahmedabad: A debate between Ahl-e-Hadis and Barelvi sects of Muslims in the border district of Kutch over the issue of whether the eating of sacramental food(niaz) or flesh of an animal slaughtered in gratitude to anyone other than Allah, is allowed in Islam has reached the Gujarat High Court. Though the court has no jurisdiction to decide on it as it has already told the parties verbally to settle it out of court, what the petitioner’s party has prayed is quashing of an FIR registered against Ahl-e-Hadis leaders on charges of promoting enmity between two groups under Sections 153-A and 505 of IPC. The genesis of the dispute lies in some members of the Ahl-e-Hadis sect in Anandsar village of Nakhatrana taluka of Kutch district refusing to eat `niaz’ on the third day after `Yaum-e-Ashura’ in January this year. Those who refused to eat `niaz’ believed in Barelvi traditions till recently. However, they gave up the Barelvi traditions after they came in contact with Ahl-e-Hadis preachers in the district. But the majority of the villagers, who still follow the Barelvi school of thought, did not like the changed behaviour. They tried to force the neo Ahl-e-Hadis people to fall in line by organizing their boycott. This led to a debate between the two sides. But the Ahl-e-Hadis members well-versed in Quranic knowledge put a question to other villagers: “Is it permitted in Islam to eat food consecrated to somebody other than Allah?’’ Ahl-e-Hadis members said they would have no objection to eating `niaz’ if it was allowed by the Quran and Sunnah of the Prohphet. In support of their argument that `niaz’ was not allowed, Ahl-e-Hadis group presented translation of verse no. 173 of Surah Bakra which says: “Allah has made unlawful to you only carrion (dead animal) and blood and the flesh of swine and that over which there has been pronounced the name of some one other than Allah…’’. Another verse quoted by them was verse no.3 of Surah Al-Maidah which translates as: “Forbidden to you are carrion, the flesh of swine, the animal slaughtered in any name other than Allah’s….’’. Explaining the two verses, the Ahl-e-Hadis group argued that the `practice of pronouncing the name of anyone or anything other than Allah and dedicating the animal as an offering, or consecrating the food, to a holy personage, dead or alive’, is totally inappropriate and amounts to showing gratitude to some other being, instead of Allah. As the `niaz’, a food, is dedicated to someone other than Allah, Ahl-e-Hadis members ruled that it was forbidden for eating as per instructions of the two verses of the Holy Quran. Their arguments led to panic in Barelvi camp. They said that if it was not allowed by Quran, why should they eat it. As they had little knowledge of the Quran, 11 of the Barelvis, accompanied with an Ahle-Hadis follower, went to 85-year-old Barelvi spiritual leader Mufti Haji Saiyed Ahmed Shah Bawa and put the question to him. Haji Juma Raima, a follower of the Barelvi sect and representative of the Mufti, told Twocircles.Net that Mufti sahib told Ahl-e-Hadis people clearly that if they did not want to eat `niaz’, they were free. But they should not disturb others. But Ahl-e-Hadis group was not satisfied by the answers of Mufti. They wrote a letter to him saying that his interpretation of the Quranic verses were not proper and that he was misguiding Muslims with regard to worship of shrines, pirs and the dead. In another letter, Maulana Suleman Siddiq of the Ahl-e-Hadis reportedly asked the Mufti to apologise publicly if he has justified the eating of `niaz’ by mistake and “let’s all think of what will happen to us after death’’. The discourses between the two sides were also got published in a local Gujarati daily published from Bhuj. The Barelvis suspected another Ahl-e-Hadis religious leader Ibrahim Bachchu behind it. Feeling that the Ahl-e-Hadis group will not restrain itself, Juma Raima lodged a criminal complaint in Bhuj Police Station against several persons belonging to Ahl-e-Hadis sect, including Maulana Siddiq and Ibrahim Bachchu, levelling charges of promoting enmity between two groups. While Ibrahim Bachchu was arrested and kept in police lock up for more than 24 hours before being let out on bail, Maulana Siddiq is still wanted in the case by the police. Subsequently, Ibrahim Bachchu moved the Gujarat high court seeking quashing of the the FIR. With a total population of 14 lakhs in Kutch district, Muslims account for about 4 lakhs, 90 per cent of them Barelvis, running several schools, hospitals and other institutions as they are financially quite strong.


Interpretation of Quranic verses! Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on 28 July 2009 – 9:03pm. When a person is bed ridden with any disease or caught in the whirlpool of stringencies or faced with unsurmountable difficulties, he/she prays to Almighty Allah. He/ she seeks the “wasila” of Prophet (PBUH) and some Valiallah “to pray for him/her and ensure early recovery or freedom from fear and adversity. By no chance the uninitiated also does equate Allah with others.The Wahabis do not make any distinction between multi shades of colours in between “white” and “Black”,but paint one stroke with the brush as “shirk” and “biddat”! No Muslim slaughters a goat or calf in any name save that of Allah.How can one be prevented from eating it then? “Niaz” is a wish a person makes to do on the successful fulfilment of his/ her wish! Many believe that with the demise of Prophet Muhamed (PBUH)the era of prophethood has ended.Hence, Allah has created the system of Valiallahs to ensure that satan does not have a free hand and mislead the people.”Vilayath” ( sainthood) is 75% acquired by limitless “nawafil” prayers of the individualand 25% due to the grace of Allah.As per Hadis Sahih Bukhari,Allah avers that for those who have established such close proximity with Him, He becomes his hand, his tongue and his wish. Further, Allah has declared that those who criticise His system of Valiallahs ,He will wage a war against them! Under such circumstances,the Wahabis and the ilk do not recognise Hazrath Shaik Abdul QaderJeelani(R.A) nor Hazrath Moinudeen Chishti (R.A)! But they cite Syed Ahmed Barelvyas (R.A),Mouan Ilyas (R.A)! Why this doube speak and double standard? It is high time a central body of scholars deal with these tricky issues and come to an conclusion.



  1. Although I am raised as a Sunni, since I have started reading the quran by translation by several authors, I am started to think a lot. First of all through out the Quran, God is telling us that pray to him only for help and forgiveness. Do not associate partners with him. Fair enough majority of Sunnis do not try associate Pirs, Saints, Prophets as partners to God but they still see the need of a Wasila . Even if this practice is not wrong, why is there any need for it, when day in and day out we could be praying to God for what we want. Instead we seek help from his saints and prophets. The time we spend going to and from Graves of the saints we could be reading Nafl and be praising the almighty for help.

  2. I have also raised as so called Sunni, Sunni means who follow sunna of Mohammed SAW, and should follow Quran, I have a question who is seeking help from other than Allah whether our prophet ask help from other than Allah, or whether its written in Quran to seek help from others (NO) than why? even I have read the book called “GHANIATUL TALIBEEN” words of Abdul Khader Jeelani R.A. who said in this book the word SUNNI doesn’t match with ther AMAL.
    We should seek help only from Allah.
    May Allah show all of us a right path, all muslims should be on SIRAT E MUSTAQIM Ameen.

  3. alhamdulillah I born as an ahle sunnat wal jamat follower & inshallah remained on it til my last breath. in quran there’s a verse in which ALLAH Command only to those who are momin to eat all those things upon which the name of allah is taken.In hadiths prophet states that, the food upon which ALLAH’S Name is recited in such food shaitaan wouldnot have any share or he wil not enter into it.So the procedure of making fatihyaan is that we recite all QUL SHARIFFS THRICE,SURA FATIHA,AYATAL QURSI,SURAH YASEEN & DUROOD SHARIF.IF All this are words doesnot belongs to allah’s then shaitan will enter into that food & if this belongs ALLAH’S DN those who opposed niaz or fatiha are shaitan as it was told prophet.so rectify ur believe or otherwise b ready of being fuel for hellfire.

    • السلام علیکم
      فیروز صاحب
      آپ نے آیت کا ترجمہ غلط کیا ہے
      اللہ تعالیٰ نے سورة الانعام میں چیزوں کے حلال کا نہیں حرام کا بتایا کہ
      خنزیر، بہتا ہوا خون، وہ چیز جس پر اللہ کے علاوہ کسی کا نام لیا گیا ہو، اور آستانوں پر زبح کیے گئے جانور
      حرام ہیں
      شروع کی آیات میں ہے
      اگر غلط کہا ہو تو جواب دے کر مطلع کر دیں
      ویسے آپ کو قرآن کی وہ آیت نظر کیوں نہ آئی کہ
      اللہ تعالیٰ فرماتا ہے
      میں تمہاری شہہ رگ سے زیادہ قریب ہوں
      مجھے پکارو میں تمہاری دعائیں سنتا اور قبول کرتا ہوں۔
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  4. u r rite brother firoz ahmed….
    wen we start eating any kind of food wat we say??
    ‘BISMILLAH'( shuru karta hun allah ke name se).whether it is niaz or normal food..

  5. Assalaam Alaikum everyone,
    I want to understand, What is the Definition of “Niaz”? How did it Start??
    Please give me the answers on the basis of Quran and Hadiths so that I can forward them to others, and show the people who are asking me about it. Jazak-Allah!

  6. Eisaal-e-Thawaab is Sunnah proved by so many Ahadith and Fateha is one of the kinds of Eisaal-e-Thawaab.

    It is in Hadith (Bukhari and Muslim), narrated by Ibn Abbas (رضئ اللہ تعالی عنہ) that a person came to the audience of Prophet Mohammad (صلى الله عليه و آله وسلم) and submitted that his sister had made a vow (nazr) that she would do Hajj. But She died without doing it. On this the Prophet (صلى الله عليه و آله وسلم) and submitted that his sister had made a vow ( said, “if she had a loan, would you pay it? He said, yes I would. The Prophet (صلى الله عليه و آله وسلم) said, pay the loan due to Allah (سبحانہ و تعا لی) , He deserves to be paid more than anybody else”.

    It is in Hadith (Muslim), narrated by Hazrat Buraidah (رضئ اللہ تعالی عنہ) saying ‘when I was sitting with the Prophet (صلى الله عليه و آله وسلم), a woman came and said, O’Prophet (صلى الله عليه و آله وسلم), I had given a slave maid to my mother and now my mother is dead. The Prophet (صلى الله عليه و آله وسلم) said, your retribution (Jaza) is a certainty and the inheritance has returned that slave maid back to you. Then the woman said, O’Prophet (صلى الله عليه و آله وسلم) my mother had an obligation to keep one month’s fasts. Shall I keep fasts on her behalf? Again she said, O’Prophet (صلى الله عليه و آله وسلم) she had never done Hajj. Shall I do Hajj on her behalf? The Prophet (صلى الله عليه و آله وسلم) said , do Hajj on her behalf”.

    It is in Hadith – that a “sweet water well” was dug for the (dead) mother of Hazrat Sa’ad (رضئ اللہ تعالی عنہ) (in Madina during Prophet Mohammad’s – صلى الله عليه و آله وسلم) time and it was announced “Haazihi li Umme Sa’ad” (Meaning – this well is for the mother of Sa’ad – رضئ اللہ تعالی عنہ). Both rich and poor used to drink water from this well. (Abu Dawood and Nasa’i).

    It is in hadith (Bukhari and Muslim), narrated by the mother of believers Aisha Siddiqua (رضئ اللہ تعالی عنہا) that a person came to the Prophet (صلى الله عليه و آله وسلم) and said O’Prophet (صلى الله عليه و آله وسلم) my mother died all of a sudden. In my opinion if she had lived, she would have done some charity. If I do it on her behalf, will she get the recompenses (thawaab)? The Prophet (صلى الله عليه و آله وسلم) said ‘Yes’.

    The above Ahadith confirm Eithaal-e-Thawaab to the dead. If we do any charity or good deeds and donate the recompense to them, they get it in Barzaq (Life after death). If we read Quran, feed the poor or do any kind of charity and donate the recompense to our dead relatives, it reaches them in Hereafter and is beneficial for them.

    It is in Hadith – Prophet (صلى الله عليه و آله وسلم) said: ” Iqra’u `ala mawtakum ya seen (Meaning – Read Sura Ya Seen over those of you who are dying/deceased.” This Hadith is narrated by Abu Dawud in his Sunan (Jana’iz), al-Nasa’i in his Sunan (`Amal al-yawm wal-layla), Ibn Majah in his Sunan (Jana’iz), and Ibn Hibban in his Sahih.

    It is in Hadith – Prophet Muhammad (صلى الله عليه و آله وسلم) said “three things continue to benefit a (believing) person even after death – charity which he had given (which continues to benefit others), beneficial knowledge which he had left behind (i.e. authored or taught), and supplication on his behalf by a righteous child. (Muslim).

    It is in Quran – Verily, the good deeds remove the evil deeds (i.e. small sins). That is a reminder for the mindful (those who accept advice). (Hud – 114)

    It is in Quran – Whoever brings a good deed shall have ten times the like thereof to his credit, and whoever brings an evil deed shall have only the recompense of the like thereof, and they will not be wronged. (Al-An-Aam – 160)

    It is in Quran – “Except those who repent and believe and do righteous deeds, for those, Allah (سبحانہ و تعا لی) will change their sins into good deeds, and Allah (سبحانہ و تعا لی) is Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful. (Al-Furqan – 70)

    It is in Hadith – (Bukhari wo Muslim). The Prophet (صلى الله عليه و آله وسلم) said that if a person intends to do a good thing, he gets one recompense in his book of good deeds. If the person, after the intention does that good deed, 10 recompense are written in his book of good deeds.

    It is in Hadith – (Bukhari wo Muslim). The Prophet (صلى الله عليه و آله وسلم) said that Allah (سبحانہ و تعا لی) increases the recompense of the good deeds up to 700 times in some cases and beyond that to some people.

    The above Quranic verses and Ahadith signify the importance of Eisaal-e-Thawaab to our dead relatives. Who knows, our good deeds done with the intention to benefit them carry unlimited Thawaab to them and help in removal of their bad deeds or converts their bad deeds into good ones. This way they get significant assistance from the living people to increase their Thawaab even after their deaths.

    What do we do in Fateha. We cook food and read the verses of Quran and feed the people and send the recompense to our dead relatives. It is important that we repeat Fateha more often so that our dead relatives get more thawaab.

    Why do we keep the cooked food in front of us while reading Quran on it during Fateha?

    It is for the simple reason that while doing Fateha, we determine our offering for the recompense of our dead relatives. It is in Ahadith that Prophet Mohammad (صلى الله عليه و آله وسلم) asked a small container of food prepared for two or three people, read some Quranic verses on them which resulted in Barakah and the food was sufficient to feed hundreds of people.

    It is in Hadith “Kullu amrin zee baalin lam yubda’ bihamdillahi fa hua abtar” (meaning – Every important thing which does not start with the praise of Allah (سبحانہ و تعا لی) (Alhamdulillahi) is vitiated (devoid of virtue).

    Thus Fateha is a requirement established by Prophet’s (صلى الله عليه و آله وسلم) commandment and is in practice since the time of Prophet Mohammad (صلى الله عليه و آله وسلم).

    In Fateha, generally people read one time Sura Fateha, three times Sura Iqhlas (it is in Hadith that the recompense of reading 3 times Surah Ikhlas is equal to one full Quran), three times Durood Sharif and in the end Dua for our dead relatives. We do not understand what is wrong in it and why it is objected?

    Why should we do things in a specific way? Put the food in front, read Quran on it and feed people. Can’t we feed the people without doing any such thing?

    It is a Prophet(صلى الله عليه و آله وسلم) practice for barakah in the food. In addition, how How can you do things in a haphazard way? When people are invited for Fateha, you should allow them to join you in reciting Quran. When all the people join in a social gathering, in reading Quran and in eating, the beneficiaries of such are many dead relatives of all the people who have gathered for Fateha.

    Why should we do Fateha at a specific time in a year.? Like at the time of Prophet’s (صلى الله عليه و آله وسلم) birth day, at the time of the birth day of Ghousul Azam (رضئ اللہ تعالی عنہ), on 40th day after the death of a person and on certain other occasions?

    Because it is Sunnah.

    (1) It is in Ahadith that Prophet Mohammad (صلى الله عليه و آله وسلم) used to keep fast on the ‘Day of Arafat’, Ashura, 15th Shabaan.

    (2) Prophet Mohammad (صلى الله عليه و آله وسلم) commanded us to perform Child’s Aqeeqa on the 7th Day of birth.

    (3) Prophet Mohammad (صلى الله عليه و آله وسلم) went to Ghazwa-e-Tabook on Thursday and he preferred to start journey on Thursdays.

    (4) Prophet Mohammad (صلى الله عليه و آله وسلم) used to keep fast on Mondays and Thursdays.

    (5) He (صلى الله عليه و آله وسلم) used to go to Masjid-e-Quba on Saturdays.

    There are so many Ahadith which tell us that Prophet Mohammad (صلى الله عليه و آله وسلم) fixed the days, dates and timings of many things. This is the reason Ahle Sunnah wal Jama’a fix the dates for doing good deeds like Eisaal-e-Thawaab.

    It is important that when we intend to do a good thing, we should fix the time in advance so that we do not forget to do it or ignore it because of certain preoccupations.

    Some people purchase goats, chicken (birds) and other halal animals in advance with the intention to use them as food for Fateha (Eisaal-e-Thawaab).

    Is it polytheism to say that “such sacrificial animal(s) is/are for ‘conveying recompense (eisaal-e-thawaab) for a dead person”?

    Please explain what is forbidden under the Quranic commandment وَمَا أُهِلَّ لِغَيْرِ اللَّهِ بِهِ ” Wama Uhilla lighairillahi bihi ” (Meaning – Whatever is sacrificed in the name of anyone other than Allah – سبحانہ و تعا لی is forbidden). (Al-Maa’ida – 3)?

    We refer to so many things ( in our day to day conversation) ‘as ours’. Like this goat I have purchased for certain Fateha, this house is mine, this is my wife, this is his / her food or this bike or car belongs to so and so. If we take the literal meanings of وَمَا أُهِلَّ لِغَيْرِ اللَّهِ بِهِ (Meaning – Whatever is sacrificed in the name of anyone other than Allah – سبحانہ و تعا لی – is forbidden), then it will become very difficult to talk.

    If someone takes the literal meanings of the above verse and refer his house as ‘Allah’s (سبحانہ و تعا لی) house, then his house will become an endowment (Waqf property).

    The purport of the above verse وَمَا أُهِلَّ لِغَيْرِ اللَّهِ بِهِ is with reference to what we intend and say at the time of sacrificing the animal.

    The Makkan apostates used to say ‘Bismillati wal Uzza’ (Meaning – In the name of Laat and Uzza – the deities of Makkans).

    Against this, it was established that Muslims say “Bismillahi Allahu Akbar” [Meaning – In the name of Allah (سبحانہ و تعا لی), and Allah (سبحانہ و تعا لی) is Supreme].

    It is in Ahadith – that at the time of sacrificing the animals Prophet Mohammad(صلى الله عليه و آله وسلم) used to say “Allahumma haaza minka wa laka. Allahumma inna haaza un Mohammadin wa aalihi. Bismillahi Allahu Akbar” [Meaning – O’Allah (سبحانہ و تعا لی) this is for you and from you. O’Allah (سبحانہ و تعا لی) this is from Mohammad (صلى الله عليه و آله وسلم) and ‘Aal-e-Nabi (صلى الله عليه و آله وسلم) ‘. In the name of Allah(سبحانہ و تعا لی) and Allah (سبحانہ و تعا لی) is Supreme]. And “Allahumma inna haaza amman shahidani bil balaag” [Meaning – O’Our Lord this is from the ones who stood witnessed to my conveying your message (to your servants)].

    Slaughtering of animals for deities is different from sacrificing them in the name of Allah (سبحانہ و تعا لی) for conveying recompense.

    Ibn ‘Abdul-Wahhab took Quranic verses revealed for the Mushrikeen of Makka and applied them to Muslim Ulema, Awliya Allah, Sufi Shaikhs and others and said those who perform Fateha and Eisaal-e-Thawaab are similar to the Mushrikeen of Makka. He branded all Muslim Ulema / Awliya and Shaikhs of 1000 years before him as Mushrikeen by misinterpreting Quranic verses.

    Ill mannerism proves ignorance from Islamic fiqh. With Salafis, even if a reference is made to a thing towards a human being it becomes so impure that even the name of Allah (سبحانہ و تعا لی) cannot purify it. Salafis should know that all Muslims in the world sacrifice animals by saying “Bismillahi Allahu Akbar”. Where is the shirk in it?

    Look at the Salafi Deeds. Salafis and their like minded groups sacrifice animals in the name of their Sky Idol God during Hajj, on Eid al-Adha and other occasions. When they say Bismillahi Allahu Akbar – they imagine a Sky Idol sitting over the skies with a huge human like physical body. They sacrifice animal for this Sky Idol God. Thus, their recording angels treat this sacrifice as Haraam, similar to what Makkan Apostates used to do for their Idol Gods. Read more…….

    It is in Quran – وَمَا أُهِلَّ لِغَيْرِ اللَّهِ بِهِ (Meaning – Whatever is sacrificed in the name of anyone other than Allah – سبحانہ و تعا لی – is forbidden). (Al-Maa’ida – 3).

    Therefore, the meat of the animals sacrificed by Salafis and their like minded Groups is Haraam in Islam and Muslims should avoid this meat as far as possible.

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