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Zakir Naik is not an Islamic Scholar ;Islamic Research Foundation IRF

31 Jul

By:  Abu Arif Al Alawi

                               Alhamdulillah!  Finally, Ahle Sunnat Wa Zamaat’s stance on Dr. Zakir Naik that  he is a specialist on comparative religion and not on Islamic Theology is endorsed by Dr. Zakir Naik’s IRF itself officially. Hence, Dr. Naik’s views on “Fiqh and Massail” carry no weight and  one should not ask him questions on these issues. In a discussion with me, Dr. Zakir Naik’s IRF admits that “Fiqh and Massail” are not their speciality; their speciality is “comparative religion” . This humble servant   of Islam sent 16 questions to Dr. Zakir Naik and his IRF on Islamic Theology at  zakir @irf.net and questions@irf.net. On behalf of Dr. Zakir Naik and IRF, Dr. SHUAIB SAYYED  [Manager Research, Islam and Comparative Religion, IRF]  answered . He totally avoided those 16 questions on Islamic Theology arguing that your questions are on Fiqh and Masaail” and not on Comparative Religion. Dr. SHUAIB SAYYED  [Manager Research, Islam and Comparative Religion, IRF]  answers On behalf of Dr. Zakir Naik and IRF :
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Jazakallah for your questions. While we certainly answer  questions on Islam and Comparative Religion which are  related to Da’wah activities (Conveying the message of Islam to non-Muslims), we do not entertain queries on matters pertaining  to Fiqh and Masaail, since our speciality is propagating Islam to  non-Muslims i.e. matters pertaining to Islam and Comparative religion. Hence, we regret to inform you that since your questions are on Fiqh and Masaail, we request you to kindly address these questions to a   specialist on Fiqh and Masaail.”

[Dr. SHUAIB SAYYED  , Manager Research, Islam and   comparative Religion, IRF]

             Now, before presenting the text of discussion between me and Dr. Zakir Naik’s IRF,  I would like to ask a few simple questions to of Dr. Zakir Naik and his IRF . If Dr. Zakir Naik and IRFdo not entertain queries on matters pertaining to Fiqh and Masaail” and Dr. Zakir Naik and IRF’s  “speciality is …..Comparative religion” as is written to me on behalf of Dr. Zakir Naik and IRF and as is written by Dr. Naik on his website that “I am a student of comparative religion.” [Source: http://www.peacetv.tv/faq/faq5_26.html ]   ,  then
1.         why does Dr. Zakir Naik freely talks on  issues pertaining to Fiqh and Massail  in his lectures and question answer programmes ?
2.     Why does he not tell everywhere that his speciality is …..Comparative religion”  and  hence he does not entertain queries on matters pertaining to Fiqh and Masaail”?
3.     Why does he condemn Ahle Sunnat wa Zamaat and call their beliefs and deeds “Shirk”or “ Bidah”? Is it Comparative Religion?
4.     Why does he advocate to abandon following four fiqhi school of thoughts ? Is it Comparative Religion?
5.     Why has he himself created a new firqa called “Ahle Sahih Hadeeth” ? Is it Comparative Religion?
This must be stopped as it is weakening the very spirit of Islam. Dr. Zakir Naik is a specialist on comparative religion and we give him due respect for it. But he is not specialist on Islamic Theology as he  himself and his IRF admit and accordingly,  the dire need of Muslim Ummah at this crucial time is that he should limit his dawah activities on comparative religion and avoid answering questions  on Aqidah  (belief ) and Fiqhi issues  as his answers on these issues only trigger disunity  and confusion among Muslim Ummah. We would also like to appeal to the followers  of Dr. Zakir Naik  to accord the prime importance to the Unity of the Ummah  and not  to stick to hero-worship.
Now, I am presenting below the text of my discussion with Dr. Zakir Naik and  his IRF. My earnest appeal to all is to go through the text of our  discussion and spread the message to the near and dear ones so that hero-worship, firqaparasti and extremism are eliminated and misguided brothers and sisters return to the Ahle Sunnat Wa Zamaat.  At the end, in obedience to the advice of Dr. zakir Naik himself, I would like to ask 15 simple questions to him demanding evidence from him on some core issues discussed by him in order to learn truth only and to eradicate misconceptions and confusions among laymen.
Text : My Discussion With Dr. Zakir Naik & IRF at  zakir @irf.net and questions@irf.net
            [ My Letter No. 01]
 first question
BISMILLAHIR  RAHMANIR  RAHIMBrother Zakir, Assalamu Alaikum.I have been in touch with you and IRF since my early days.
Alhamdulillah. I’ve read all the books written by you and have
listened most of tour lectures. Your debating power has really charmed
me. In order to be enlightened more, I would like to receive  answers
from you of some complicated questions regarding shirk and bidat.
Hope, you will enlighten me.

1.     Is kissing Rawza of Rasulullah ( other mazars also) shirk or not?

2.      Is Taqlid of Imams shirk or not? If somebody makes taqlid of
a particular Imam, is he Mushrik or not?

3.        Is Prayer  to Allah through wassila of prophets and
awliyas shirk or not? If smebody prays through A prophet or an awliya,
should he be called Mushrik or not?

4.     Is   seeking help to a Prophet, awliya or any other pious
person shirk or not? If a person seeks help from a prophet or awliya ,
is he Mushrik or not?

5.     If  A man says to Rasulullah (pbuh) the following words,
what should be our view on him? Is he Mushrik or not?

” O Exceptional! Among those who can be depended on.
O Exceptional! Among those who can be depended upon to
eradicate difficulty.
O Exceptional! Among those whose generosity showers more than rain.
I indeed testify to the fact that at the time when my heart is
engulfed in this       dilemma,
You are indeed the one who gives me assistance and consolation”.

6.    If a man says to Rasulullah (pbuh) the following  words,
what should be our view on him?  Is  he Mushrik or not?

” Ae  mere aaqa,  ae mare sahare, ae mere wasile,
sakhti aur narmi me mere kam aane wale,
……………………………..
Aap ke sewa mera koi nahi hain zis se madad mangi zaye
……………                                              ”

7.    What about celabrating Miladunnabi? Is it Bidat as well as
shirk or not?

8.  If somebody considers sufi Muhiuddin Ibne Arabi as Shaykhe
Akbar, is he Mushrik or not?

9.     If someone believes  in and supports the theory of Wahadatul
Wazud, is he Mushrik or not?

10.     Some people says,  not only Sahih Hadith but Zaif  and
Hasan ahdith  also are acceptable. What is your advice on this issue?

11.     What is your view on Maulana Maududi, Dr Israr Ahmed and
Shaikh Ahmed Deedat ? They were pious and pride of Muslims or not?

12.    Somebody says, you are Wahabi. I don’t know  Who are wahabi?
Would tou kindly explain to me Wahabism?

13.    What is your view on Dr Tahirul qadri? Is he reliable? Is
his Aqida in accordance with Quran & hadeeth?

14.    I found in a website that Imam ahmed Raza Khan of Breilly
was a great Alim.  Really  was he a great Alim?

15.     somebody says, Isal e Sawab is permissible. somebody says ,
it is bidah. what is your advice on it?

16.  Should one offer namaz behind a person or get his sons and
daughters married to him or his family members who makes taqlid of a
particular Imam, prays to Allah through the wasila of Prophets or
Awliyas, addresses dead  Prophets and Awliyas and seeks help from
them, believes in Wahadatul Wazud ?

I know, you are very busy. Yet, I hope you will
manage time  to answer my questions and bring me out from the dillema
I have fallen to.

  —————————————————————————————————————
[Reply By Dr. SHUAIB SAYYED  [Manager Research, Islam and Comparative Religion, IRF] , On behalf of Dr. Zakir Naik and IRF]
“Dear Brother,
Wa Alaikum Assalam Warahmatullahi Wabarakatuhu.
I pray to Allah (swt) for your health, happiness and vigor in Islamic spirits. Aameen.
Jazakallah for your questions. While we certainly answer questions on Islam and Comparative Religion which are related to Da’wah activities (Conveying the message of Islam to non-Muslims), we do not entertain queries on matters pertaining to Fiqh and Masaail, since our speciality is propagating Islam to non-Muslims i.e. matters pertaining to Islam and Comparative religion.
Hence, we regret to inform you that since your questions are on Fiqh and Masaail, we request you to kindly address these questions to a specialist on Fiqh and Masaail.
May we also draw your attention to the fact that replies (by Dr. Zakir Abdul-Karim Naik) to common questions posed by non-Muslims about Islam are available on our web site: http://www.irf.net/ in the FAQ section.Inshallah these will be of tremendous help to you in your Da’wah initiatives.Once again, thanks for writing to us. If you have any questions on Da’wah related matters on Islam and Comparative Religion, please feel free to email the IRF Research Department at : – questions@irf.net

Some Islamic websites, which answer several questions on Islam including Fiqh and Masaail, are:
**********
(Provides answers with references to the Qur’an and Sunnah.)*********(Provides answers with references to the Qur’an and Sunnah.)
Also read the book “Fundamentals of Tawheed” by Dr. Abu Ameenah Bilal Philips
May Allah (swt) shower His Choicest Blessings on the entire Muslim Ummah and help us in our mission of bearing witness to the truth of Islam before all mankind. Aameen
With warm regards and salaams from all of us at IRF. Jazakallahu Khairan and Was Salaam,
 Yours in the Service of Islam,
 Dr. SHUAIB SAYYED
 Manager Research, Islam and Comparative Religion
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 secomd letter           [ My Letter No. 02]
 
Bismillahir Rahmanir RahimAssalam Alaikum.A few days back , In response to my a volley of questions, you
wrote to me that  you  “do not entertain queries on matters pertaining
to Fiqh and Masaail, since our speciality is propagating Islam to
non-Muslims i.e. matters pertaining to Islam and Comparative
religion”.  I was taken aback by this answer because Dr zakir Naik in
his lectures and question answer programes talks freely on this
issues.

I’ve been a sincere reader of Dr Zakir Naik’s books and Shaykh
Ahmeed Deedat’s books from my tender age. I must say, Shaykh Deedat
always worked within his own limitation whereas Brother Naik always
loves to cross his limitation . Although I’ve been a great admirer of
his debating ability, I think, due to  his  arrogance and audacity he
has  deviated from the path of Ahle Sunnat Wa zamaat.

You said, Fiqh and Massael is not his field. Then why is he attacking
the beliefs of Ahle Sunnat Wa Zamaat? why is he taunting the Fiqhi
differences among the four great School of thoughts?

In every issue against Ahle Sunnat Wa zamaat, he demands evidences
from Quran and Sahih Hadith but he himself presents all his cases only
with the help of logic and reason.’ If’ is his main weapon andwith the
word-game he tries to befool the audiences who is in the darkness of
Islamic theology.

In a reply to a Christian’s question he says, one who obeys Allah is
His son, not by birth but by obedience. Naik calls himself Allah’s son
as he obeys Him. What is it? How can he dare to utter such dangerous
words?    Which verse of Al quran or which Hadith can he preesnt as
evidence in support of his strange views? This is not the only case .
In countless cases, he has uttered poisonous views, harmful for his
own as well as the listners’ Imaan.

He says, he only values Sahih Hadith. The status of sahih hadith
is definitely indisputable. But does the usule hadith say that Hasan
Hadith is rejectable ? Does usule hadith say that all types of  Daeef
Hadithes are rejectable outright? If it is not Hadith rejection then
what is hadith rejection?

My request to Brother Naik is to dwell upon his Aqidah seriously,
make tawba and make necessary correction . It is in the interest of
himself as well as Muslim Ummah.

***** I am very humble person and always have been a well wisher
of Brother Naik. I don’t have the tiniest intention to hurt him or
grieve him.****

Comment: Dr. Zakir Naik & His IRF have not replied so far to the second letter sent by me though more than two years have passed by since then.
 Now My Appeal & Questions To Dr. Zakir Naik & His IRF
               Brother Zakir Naik ! You call yourself “ Ahle Sahih Hadeeth” and the basic criterion of your Movement is that  only Quran and Sahih Hadeeth  deserve to be obeyed and any Scholar’s view carry no value. You say, “ ….anyone says anything about Deen, he should back it up with the reference  from Quran and Sahih Hadith” (Ref :  Zakir Naik Promoting “SHIRK” and “BIDDAH” in Islam!! http://www.youtube.com/user/TheEmpireofFaith#p/u/6/-fJLoo3pc40)  . You say,” Any person any Scholar say anything ask of proof……….What Zakir Naik says has no value what Allah says has value…….what I say carry no weight…..any Scholar say anything ask for proof.” [ Ref. Zakir Naik on Wasila www.youtube.com/watch?v=jSReUdbb].
     Now, in obedience to your advice, I would like to demand reference from Quran and Sahih Hadeeth only from yourself on the following 15 burning issues pertaining to “Fiqh and Massail”. I Hope you will provide reference and proof in support of your standpoint on these issues. I assure you that once you provide reference from Quran and saheeh Hadeeth, I would accept your dawah of Ahle Sahih Hadeeth. But if you fail to back up your answers with reference from Quran and Sahih Hadeeth, I would respectfully appeal you to make tawba, stop answering to issues pertaining to “Fiqh and Massail”and to return to the Ahle Sunnat wa zamaat.
Question No 01 to Dr. Zakir Naik & His IRF:  Brother Zakir Naik!  You say, “ ….anyone says anything about Deen, he should back it up with the reference  from Quran and Sahih Hadith …, any scholar after he says anything if he does not refer to these sources, whatever he says, does not carry weightn”.
               Now I beg to learn from you, in which verse of Quran or in which Sahih Hadeeth this criterion is mentioned? Would you kindly reveal,  from Surah Fatiha to Surah An-Nas of Al- Quran—— in which verse or In which Sahih Hadeeth Allah Almighty or His beloved Prophet Sallallahu Alaihi Wa Sallam has communicated the criterion that except Quran and Sahih Hadeeth nothing deserve to be valued?
Question No 02 to Dr. Zakir Naik & His IRF: Brother Zakir Naik! On one hand you  criticize four great fiqhi school of thoughts like Hanafi, Shafie, Maliki and Hanbali arguing that “To create Firqa is haram”. On the other hand, you say, “I call myself Ahle Sahih Hadith(Ref : Debate between Dr Naik and Maulana Hamid Rahmani. Mp3, dr _Zakir_ahlehadees_1. Released by www.asliahlesunnat.com).
                Now I beg to learn from you, in which verse of Quran or in which Sahih Hadeeth, instruction has been given to create “Ahle Sahih Hadith” firqa?
Question No 03 to Dr. Zakir Naik & His IRF: Brother Zakir Naik! You say, there are a thousand things I can list which God almighty can’t do ….” (REF:  Is Quraan Word of God, from the CD-“Presenting Islaam and Clarifying Misconceptions). Allahu Akbar!
Now I beg to learn from you, in which verse of Quran or in which Sahih Hadeeth these evil words are  written that Allah cannot do a thousand things?
Question No 04 to Dr. Zakir Naik & His IRF:  Brother Zakir Naik! You say, We muslims have got no objection if anyone calls”  Allah as “Brahma”, “Vishnu” etc. (REF:  Is Quraan Word of God, from the CD-“Presenting Islaam and Clarifying Misconceptions)
                                Now I beg to learn from you, in which verse of Quran or in which Sahih Hadeeth permission has been given to call Allah as “Brahma”, “Vishnu” etc?
Question No 05 to Dr. Zakir Naik & His IRF:   Brother Zakir Naik! In a reply to a Christian’s question about Jesus Christ’s being Son of Allah, you said  that one who obeys Allah is His son, not by birth but by obedience. You called yourself too Allah’s son as you obey Him. Thus all who obey Allah are, according to you,are His sons. [ Ref: Zakir naik says IM SON OF GOD  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DnHjMCSbFxU‎]
             
Now I beg to learn from you, in which verse of Quran or in which Sahih Hadeeth this explanation is mentioned that one who obeys Allah is His son?
Question No 06 to Dr. Zakir Naik & His IRF:   Brother Zakir Naik! You saythere are 25 verses in Quran Mazeed where it is written that   Shifa meaning waseelah/ shifaarish is Haraam”.  [link: http://www.cifiaonline.com/apps/videos/show/10778621 ]
                             Now I beg to learn from you the 25 verses of Al Quran where wassila is declared haram. Brother! This statement appears to be a white lie. Would you kindly oblige us by quoting these 25 Quranic verses? Allah says: Say: ‘People who invent lies against Allah will not be successful.’ (Qur’an 10:69)
Question No 07 to Dr. Zakir Naik & His IRF: Brother Zakir Naik! You say, “.by definition I am a jew”. [ Ref: Symposium- religion in the right perspective——“Presenting Islaam  and Clarifying Misconceptions ]
Now I beg to learn from you, in which verse of Quran or in which Sahih  Hadeeth permission has been granted to Muslims to call one “jew” by definition?
Question No 08 to Dr. Zakir Naik & His IRFBrother Zakir Naik! You say, “.I am a Christian.” [Ref: Symposium- religion in the right perspective——“Presenting Islaam  and Clarifying Misconceptions ]
      Now I beg to learn from you, in which verse of Quran or in which Sahih  Hadeeth permission has been granted to Muslims to call one Christian.”?
Question No 09 to Dr. Zakir Naik & His IRF:  Brother Zakir Naik! You say, “If you mean ‘a Prophet’ is a person who is chosen and purified, then ……According to Islam, there are 4 Prophet women, besides Bibi Mariyam and Bibi Asiya (may Allah be pleased with them) – The other the examples are of Bibi Fatema and Bibi Khatija, (May Allah be pleased with them both).
              Now I beg to learn from you, in which verse of Quran or in which Sahih  Hadeeth licence has been granted to use ‘IF’ as a weapon to make one’s own definition of Nabi? In which verse of Quran or in which Sahih  Hadeeth it is said that “a Prophet’ is a person who is chosen and purified” ? I n which verse of Quran or in which Sahih  Hadeeth, it is mentioned that “According to Islam, there are 4 Prophet women” ? Is it not a direct attack on Khatme  Nabuwat on the footsteps of Ghulam Ahmed Qadiyani who debated a lot with the Christians and non-Muslims and later on claimed himself to be a Prophet?
Question No 10 to Dr. Zakir Naik & His IRF:  Brother Zakir Naik! You say, “A man in paradise will have a hoor that is a beautiful maiden with beautiful big and lustrous eyes and a woman in paradise will get a man with beautiful big and lustrous eyes.”[ Ref: (Womens rights in islaam ? modernising or outdated– ——“Presenting  Islaam and Clarifying Misconceptions ?]
Now I beg to learn from you, in which verse of Quran or in which Sahih  Hadeeth this explanation is given that A man in paradise will have a hoor that is a beautiful maiden with beautiful big and lustrous eyes and a woman in paradise will get a man with beautiful big and lustrous eyes.”?
   
Question No 11 to Dr. Zakir Naik & His IRF:  Brother Zakir Naik! You say, “that there is a hadith in Bukhari, “those people who will conquer Constantinople they will go heaven and Yazeed was the commander”.[ Ref: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RIqgyHcbojw%5D
Now I beg to learn from you the exact reference with Arabic Text from Sahih Bukhari where it is written that “those people who will conquer Constantinople they will go heaven and Yazeed was the commander”?  Attributing lie to the Prophet Sallallahu Alaihi Wa sallam is an unpardonable crime.
                                 Question No 12 to Dr. Zakir Naik & His IRF  :  Brother Zakir Naik !  In an attempt to defend the Salafi  viewpoint on Talaq, you said that “ Quran Says, Even If Three Talaqs Are Given Together, It’ll Be One Talaq”(Quran kahta hain ki tin talaq ek sath me bhi denge to ek hi hota hain.”) [ Ref: Dr. Zakir Naik – Triple Talaq (urdu)http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WEEOSmobuvM&feature=related]
Now I beg to learn from you, in which verse Allah Almighty has said that , “Even If Three Talaqs Are Given Together, It’ll Be One Talaq”? Allah says: Say: ‘People who invent lies against Allah will not be successful.’ (Qur’an 10:69).
 Question No 13 to Dr. Zakir Naik & His IRF:  Brother Zakir Naik! You use tie and you always try to justify its use. I beg to learn from you, in which verse of Quran or in which Sahih  Hadeeth tie has been declared permissible?
Question No 14 to Dr. Zakir Naik & His IRF: Brother Zakir Naik! You are  adored  by your fans as “Allamatul Muslimin”. I beg to learn from you, which verse of Quran or which Sahih  Hadeeth justifies the use of this title “Allamatul Muslimin”?
Question No 15 to Dr. Zakir Naik & His IRF:  Brother Zakir Naik! In your programmes, particularly in question-answer sessions, whenever you finish answering, your followers applaud it by clapping. Some people are of the view that clapping in this way is unwanted in Islamic programmes.  I beg to learn from you, which verse of Quran or which Sahih  Hadeeth justifies clapping in appreciation of answers by a scholar ?
                          Brother Zakir Naik ! We will wait for your response thirstily. Please no logic ! No argument! No Quarrelling! Only reference, my dear brother as you say, ““Any person any Scholar say anything ask of proof……….What Zakir Naik says has no value what Allah says has value…….what I say carry no weight…..any Scholar say anything ask for proof”. [ Ref. Zakir Naik on Wasila www.youtube.com/watch?v=jSReUdbb].  Allah instructs : “…Say, ‘Produce your evidence if you are telling the truth.’ (Qur’an 2:111).” If you can’t, in the interest of Muslim Ummah,  please just stick to comparative religion and  avoid  issues relating to “Fiqh and Massail” as your IRF avoids and admits  in discussion with me: “While we certainly answer questions on Islam and Comparative Religion which are related to Da’wah activities (Conveying the message of Islam to non-Muslims), we do not entertain queries on matters pertaining  to Fiqh and Masaail, since our speciality is propagating Islam to non-Muslims i.e. matters pertaining to Islam and Comparative religion. Hence, we regret to inform you that since your questions are on Fiqh and Masaail, we request you to kindly address these questions to a specialist on Fiqh and Masaail.” [Dr. SHUAIB SAYYED  , Manager Research, Islam and   comparative Religion, IRF]
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Senior Salafi Wahabi, Yasir Qadi, leaves and rejects Wahabism

21 Jul

Senior Salafi Wahabi ,Qazi Yasir leaves and rejects Wahabism

Salafi Wahabis Exposed

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Wahabi Zakir Naik lost to Ahle Sunnah Scholar in Sri Lanka

21 Jul

Colombo ,Sri Lanka- Mudaasir Ameen

Zakir Naik faced hard questions on Tawassul or Waseela (intercession ), Following four Imams  in matter of Jurisprudence or Taqleed  and on the Life of Prophets in their graves in Sri Lanka  by young Ahle Sunnah Scholars but could not answer any of the question.He tried to ignore the questions then he was handed over the letter for discussion.To utter surprise of all he could not answer the questions directly posed rather he answered wrongly and rejected Tawassul with out any source.

Person like Zakir Naik who hides their true Wahabi beliefs behind Hindu bashing has been  exposed  by these young Scholars.When he could not answer he said he will reply through Email but when he was reminded same questions were send via mail 4 years back he replied he can’t reply each and every mail as thousands of mails daily comes to his E-Mail adress.Watch the video for deatils-Questions are still opened and challenge is still on.

Is Zakir Naik listening ?

Muslims Protested against Zakir Naik’s arrival in Kishanganj, Bihar

30 Mar

29th March Kishanganj,Bihar

Muslims of Kishanganj  organised a massive rally to protest against the planned arrival of Zakir Naik in the region.Sunni Muslims carrying Playcards and Banners , raising slogans marched on the National Highway of Kishangnaj.People were demanding immediate ban on Zakir naik’s speeches in the city.

The protesters  presented Memorandum to Distt administration demanding Ban on his programmes.Ulemas and Social activist were leading the masses on the streets while youths and students were raising slogans  like ”We Sunni Muslims dont accept the Wahabi Faith of Zakir Naik”,” Stop the Supporter of Osama Bin Laden”, ”Ban Praiser of Yazeed”, ”Ban Insulter of Hazrat Hussain”,”Ban Wahabi Gustakh” .

It may be noted that this planned event was widely advertised through out Bihar and large hoardings were put all over the area.People were angry that whole area belong to Sufi Sunni Muslims who dont subscribe to hardline Wahabism which is preaching  hate and converting local Muslims into its fold .

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MSO of India to hold “”Peace Conference “” at Murshidabad

19 Nov

Kolkata: The Muslim Students Organisation of India (MSO) is going to hold a daylong “Peace Conference” on 20th November at SCM High School ground in Islampore area of Murshidabad district in West Bengal.

The conference will be divided into two parts. While Students Conference for youths and students will be held from 2.30. P.M to 6.00 P.M (20th Nov) the Peace Conference will be in the evening from 9.00 P.M to 4.00 A.M.

“The aim of organizing this Conference is to spread the message of Islam which is Peace for all. The Conference will focus on Sufism which teaches humanity, tolerance, respect towards other communities, Brotherhood and Communal harmony in the country,” said MSO in a statement.

The group hopes that about one lakh people will attend the Conference.

The Peace Conference will endorse the resolution of AIUMB passed at”Muslim Mahapanchayat” held last month in Moradabad of Uttar Pradesh.

For more details: msoofindia@gmail.com

Non bailable warrant issued against Zakir Naik,Raza Academy demands seizure of his passport

15 May

15th May 2011.New Delhi
Courtesy:Sahafat.in and DNA News

Infamous orator and Ahle Hadith doctor Zakir naik has been issued Non Bailable warrants against him by the Jhansi court of Uttar Pradesh,India.A complaint was filed against him by Mudassar Ullah Khan, a resident of Chhatapur, Jhansi in 2008. Khan alleged that apart from the speech, pamphlets were also distributed in Jhansi condemning those who follow the Hadis or the book on the sayings and doings of Prophet Mohammed salallahoalaihiwassalam.

In April, the additional district sessions judge at Jhansi issued summons asking Naik to appear before the court on May 12. Naik approached the Allahabad high court for a stay on the summons. Advocate Shahid Ali Siddiqui, who represents the complainant, said, “Dr Naik did not appear before the court on May 12 and the court issued a non-bailable warrant against him.”
Advocate Nazrul Islam Zafri who is representing Naik in the high court said, “The complaints made against Dr Naik are frivolous and malicious. It has been filed just to defame him.”The case will be heard by Justice RD Khare of Allahabad high court.
The Allahabad high court will be hearing a petition filed by Mumbai-based television evangelist Dr Zakir Naik on May 16 in a three-year old case where the preacher is alleged to have given speeches on television, exhorting Muslims to take up terrorism.

Naik, who heads a group called the Islamic Research Foundation, Mumbai, is alleged to have given the speech in Bangalore. The talk was relayed on his ‘Peace’ television channel on January 21, 2006.

Raza Academy,a representative body of majority Indian Muslims have written to the Mumbai police commissioner saying that Naik should not be allowed to leave the country.Muhammad Saeed Noori ,General secretary have asked the govt. to Seize his passport immediately.

Indian Muslims and Imam-e-Haram Sheikh Abdurehman Al Sudais

8 Apr

माम हरम के भारत आगमन पर उर्दू अखबारों ने काफी कुछ लिखा है। जिस तरह उनका प्रचार-प्रसार किया जा रहा था उस पर चर्चा करते हुए एक अखबार ने लिखा है कि यह सुनामी है। सुनामी गुजर जाने के बाद देखिएगा, कैसे-कैसे दृश्य नजर आते हैं। पेश है इस बाबत उर्दू के कुछ अखबारों की राय।

`इमाम हरम का दौरा देवबंद’ के शीर्षक दैनिक `उर्दू नेट’ में सम्पादक असगर अंसारी ने लिखा है कि मक्का और मदीना की मस्जिद में इमामत के लिए योग्य होना ऐसा ही है जैसा दिल्ली की शाही मस्जिद का मामला है, बाप के बाद बेटा उसके बाद पोता। जिस तरह जामा मस्जिद के शाही इमाम की योग्यता पूर्व इमाम का बेटा होना है उसी तरह मक्का में स्थित हरम का इमाम होना मोहम्मद बिन अब्दुल वहाब के रिश्तेदारों से होना है। सऊदी अरब ने अपने यहां जारी आंदोलन की लहर को टालने के लिए मसलकी रंग दे दिया है और अमेरिका के इशारे पर इस्राइली हितों को संरक्षण देने हेतु बहरीन में सैनिक हस्तक्षेप कर दिया है। दूसरी ओर सऊदी अरब के धार्मिक विभाग के मंत्रालय ने आम मुसलमानों को यह समझाने की जिम्मेदारी दी है कि सऊदी अरब में इस्लाम के अनुसार शरई सरकार है और इसके खिलाफ गतिविधियां इस्लाम के खिलाफ और गैर शरई हैं। सभी इमामों से कहा गया है कि वह आंदोलनकारियों को शिया करार देकर इस्लामी जगत के लिए खतरा करार दें ताकि सुन्नी मुसलमान इस आंदोलन के खिलाफ एकजुट हो जाएं। सऊदी अरब के सामने सबसे बड़ा मिशन यही है और उसके मंत्री, दूत एवं धार्मिक व्यक्ति इस समय दुनियाभर के दौरे पर हैं। शेख अबुर्दुरहमान बिन अब्दुल अजीज असुदैस का दौरा भी इसी सिलसिले की कड़ी मालूम होता है। कांफ्रेंस के लिए विषय का चयन भी ऐसा है जो मुसलमानों में बहरहाल विवादित है।

`और कितना नीचे उतरेंगे अरशद मियां?’ के शीर्षक से वरिष्ठ पत्रकार हफीज नोमानी ने `जदीद’ खबर में लिखा है कि उनके प्रेस में सैयद सालार मसूद गाजी के उर्स का पोस्टर छपवाने एक साहब आते थे। एक बार जब वह आए तो उन्होंने कहा कि इस बार पोस्टर में आधे में मेरा फोटो और तीन इंच की मोटी पट्टी में नाम सहित आधे में उर्स का विवरण और कैलेंडर होगा। इसकी संख्या एक लाख होगी। यह पूछने पर कि इस बार ऐसा अलग क्यों हैं, उन्होंने कहा कि वह चुनाव लड़ना चाहते हैं इसीलिए आधे में फोटो और आधे में कैलेंडर है ताकि लोगों के घर में लगा रहे और सालभर लोग मुझे देखकर याद करते रहें। इस उदाहरण को देने के बाद वह लिखते हैं अगर हमारी बात गलत है तो माफ कर दीजिएगा। हमें बिल्कुल ऐसा लग रहा है कि जैसे हमारे दोस्त सैयद सालार मसूद गाजी की गोद में बैठकर संसद में पहुंचना चाहते हैं। मौलाना अरशद मदनी बिना जरूरत और बिना किसी कारण पैगम्बर मोहम्मद के महान साथियों (सहाबा) को जमीअत उलेमा के लिए इस्ताल कर रहे हैं। दिल्ली में लाख दो लाख मुसलमानों को जमा करके अपनी लोकप्रियता का प्रदर्शन कर राज्यसभा की सदस्यता के लिए रास्ता साफ कर रहे हैं।

`सहाबा की महानता के नाम पर अमेरिकी हितों का संरक्षण’ के तहत डॉ. मुजफ्फर हुसैन गजाली ने `सेकुलर कयादत’ में लिखा है। हिन्दुस्तानी मुसलमान यह महसूस करते हैं कि ऐसे समय में सहाबा की महानता पर कांफ्रेंस करना जबकि मुस्लिम देशों में तानाशाहों के खिलाफ लोकतंत्र के हक में एक जबरदस्त इंकलाब आया हुआ है जिसकी शुरुआत ईरान से हुई थी। इत्तेहाद मिल्लत (मुस्लिम एकता) को नुकसान पहुंचाना है। मुस्लिम दुनिया में जो हालात पैदा हो रहे हैं उनसे ईरान के लिए मुसलमानों में गुंजाइश पैदा हुई है और शिया-सुन्नी करीब आए हैं। अरशद मदनी की सहाबा की महानता कांफ्रेंस मुस्लिम हित की नहीं बल्कि इस्राइल एवं अमेरिका के हित के संरक्षण की कांफ्रेंस है। सऊदी अरब में लोकतांत्रिक सरकार अमेरिका के हित में नहीं है। ऐसा करने से उसकी पकड़ कमजोर पड़ जाएगी। हो सकता है कि मौलाना मिल्ली इत्तेहाद को नुकसान पहुंचाकर इस अवसर का फायदा उठाने की रणनीति के तहत मैदान में उतरे हों। इससे मौलाना के दो मकसद पूरे हो सकते हैं। एक कांग्रेस उन्हें राज्यसभा में भेज दे तो उनकी मंजिल है दूसरे उन्हें आने वाले चुनावों में मुसलमानों का वोट कांग्रेस के हक में डलवाने का ठेका मिल जाए। `हमारा समाज’ में सालिक धामपुरी ने `देखने हम भी पर तमाशा न हुआ’ के शीर्षक से लिखा है। इमाम हरम के हमारे देश में आने की सूचना कारोबारी मकसद से निकलन वाले अखबारात में दीनी व मिल्ली जमाअतों बल्कि हमारे उलेमा की ओर से दिए गए लाखों रुपये के विज्ञापनों से पढ़ने को मिली। इमाम हरम का हमारे देश में आने का मकसद क्या है यह हम नहीं जानते, लेकिन इनके आगमन पर हमारी मिल्ली जमाअतों ने अपनी पब्लिसटी का कोई मौका हाथ से नहीं जाने दिया। 26 मार्च को इमाम हरम को जमाअत इस्लामी हिन्द के मुख्यालय स्थित गुबंद वाली मस्जिद में जोहर की नमाज पढ़ानी थी इसके लिए एक दिन पहले से ही रिक्शे पर ऐलान कराया गया और अखबारों में विज्ञापन दिया गया जिसके कारण भीड़ इतनी हो गई कि वह मस्जिद के अन्दर नहीं जा सके और उन्हें बिना नमाज पढ़ाए ही वापस जाना पड़ा। माना कि भीड़ के कारण वह नमाज नहीं पढ़ा सके लेकिन जमाअत इस्लामी हिन्द कैडर आधारित संगठन होने का दावा करती है। देश की व्यवस्था की तब्दीली की इच्छा रखने वाली जमाअत एक मामूली से कार्यक्रम को कंट्रोल नहीं कर सकी। सुबह से इमाम हरम के जोहर की नमाज अदा कराने का एक मुबारक तमाशे का जो ऐलान हो रहा था, अफसोस कि वह तमाशा न हो सका। `इमाम हरम के दौरे पर सियासी रोटियां सेकने की कोशिश तेज’ के तहत देवबंद से रिजवान सलमानी ने `हमारा समाज’ में लिखा है कि राजनैतिक विशेषज्ञों का मानना है कि केंद्र की यूपीए सरकार विशेषकर प्रधानमंत्री मनमोहन सिंह के अमेरिका की ओर झुकाव से कांग्रेस की मुसलमानों और सेकुलर लोगों में जो छवि बनी है, इमाम हरम के दौरे से इसमें बदलाव आएगा। कांग्रेस और ममता बनर्जी की तृणमूल कांग्रेस ने आगे बढ़कर इस कार्यक्रम में भाग लिया और केंद्रीय स्वास्थ्य मंत्री गुलाम नबी आजाद ने उनके लिए अशोका होटल में भोज दिया। उससे कांग्रेस के इरादे किसी से छिपे नहीं रह सके। विशेषज्ञ यह भी मानते हैं कि गत कुछ समय से उत्तर प्रदेश के मुसलमानों को समाजवादी पार्टी और बहुजन समाज पार्टी से तोड़ने में जीजान से कांग्रेस लगी है। वर्तमान कार्यक्रम को कांग्रेस की इसी नीति का हिस्सा माना जा रहा है।

`इमाम हरम की राजनीति’ के शीर्षक से दैनिक `हमारा समाज’ में ख्वाजा मजनू ने लिखा है। राजधानी वालों के लिए यह सप्ताह काफी मुबारक था। हर तरफ पवित्र हलचल थी। लोग जा-ए-नमाज (जमीन पर बिछाकर नमाज पढ़ने का कपड़ा) लेकर भागते नजर आ रहे थे। जिन्होंने कभी खुदा का घर नहीं देखा वह भी भगवान राम के मैदान सिजदा करने के लिए बेचैन थे। कोई इसे आधा हज का दर्जा दे रहा था तो कोई हज से भी ज्यादा महत्व देने में लगा था। दिल्ली में इमाम साहब कहां जाएंगे और कहां नहीं जाएंगे इसके लिए अन्दर ही अन्दर खूब खींचातानी हुई। आईटीओ स्थित मस्जिद अब्दुल नबी से 24 घंटे कंट्रोलिंग की कोशिश की जा रही थी।

यहां मुंबई के एक साहब हैं, जिन्हें कुछ लोग मोबाइल आफिस भी कहते हैं। वह एक ट्रेवल एजेंट हैं लेकिन छोटे बाबू की सेवा करना अपना कर्तव्य समझते हैं। छोटे बाबू ने वह कर दिखाया जिससे उनके पूर्वज वर्षों से नहीं करना चाहते थे। सऊदी सरकार के खिलाफ अपनी आवाज उठाने के लिए मशहूर इनके पूर्वजों की आत्मा को कितनी तकलीफ हुई होगी जब एक सरकारी इमाम के लिए शेखुल इस्लाम का नारा लगा रहे हों। एक ऐसा व्यक्ति कदमों में एक कर्मचारी के गिर पड़ा हो जिनके पूर्वजों के कदमों में पूरा शासन नतमस्तक हुआ हो और उन्होंने उसे ठोकर मार दी हो। खैर, यह तो समय-समय की बात है। हालात सदैव एक जैसे नहीं रहते और बुद्धिजीवी वही है जो हालात के अनुसार फैसला करे, जो अपनी बरतरी के लिए किसी का कदम चूमें और किसी के दर पर माथा टेके।

Courtesy:Blogger Khursheed

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Muslims Supported the U.K ban on Zakir Naik

29 Jun

“Maulana Ahmad Nisar Beg Qadri, Vice-Chairman of the British Muslim Forum said:
The ban issued by the UK government on Islamic televangelist Dr Zakir Naik has split the city Muslims into two camps.
Mumbai-Hindustan Times Mumbai, June 22, 2010
The ban issued by the UK government on Islamic televangelist Dr Zakir Naik has split the Muslims into two camps.
Sunni Muslims, spearheaded by the Raza Academy, visited the British High Commission on Monday to express their support to the government, which banned Naik’s entry into the country.
Another collective of Muslim organisations is planning to protest the ban at Azad Maidan on Tuesday, and to submit a petition in solidarity with the Mumbai-based preacher.
Naik, due to give two public lectures in the UK next week, has been accused of promoting terrorism in his speeches.
“We appreciate the initiative of the UK government to restrict his entry. We do not accept him as an Islamic preacher or scholar,” said the letter submitted to the British High Commission by a group of 12 Sunni ulemas, who alleged that Naik has no degree in Islamic studies and gives speeches designed to make Muslims fight internally.
“Naik and writers Salman Rushdie and Taslima Nasrin all come in the same category — they all protect terrorism,” said Maulana Amanullah Raza, president of the All India Aimma-e-Masajid Council, one of the groups supporting the ban.
“Those who support Naik are in the minority, and are all Wahhabis (an Islamic sect focusing only on belief in Allah).”
British Muslim Forum Supported the Ban in Britain
London. U.K
“Maulana Ahmad Nisar Beg Qadri, Vice-Chairman of the BritishMuslimForumsaid:

“We are British Muslims. Our religion does not allow any kind of terror where ever we are. We have to prove that we Muslims are best British citizens, patriotic, law abiding andpeaceloving”.

“Dr. Zakir Naik is a very controversial figure. He openly supports Al Qaeda and the Talibans. He openly ridicules other faiths as well as the beliefs of the Ahl-us-Sunna (Traditional Sunnis). He is no less than Omar Bakri who, amongst others, have given a bad name to Muslims in the UK and elsewhere”.

“Dr Zakir Naik is medical doctor by professional training and not an Islamic preacher or scholar. He has no degree in Islamic studies and gives speeches designed to mock and incite hatred of other faiths as well as create divisions amongst Muslim sects. Those Muslims who support Naik are in the minority. They are either Wahhabi-influenced or, English-speaking Muslim enthusiasts wanting, with the right intentions, to learn about their religion but from the wrongguy”,hesaid”

A group of Sunni Muslims, spearheaded by the Raza Academy, visited the British High Commission on Monday to express their support to the government, which banned Naik’s entry into the country.

Another collective of Muslim organisations is planning to protest the ban at Azad Maidan on Tuesday, and to submit a petition in solidarity with the Mumbai-based preacher.

Naik, due to give two public lectures in the UK next week, has been accused of promoting terrorism in his speeches.

“We appreciate the initiative of the UK government to restrict his entry. We do not accept him as an Islamic preacher or scholar,” said the letter submitted to the British High Commission by a group of 12 Sunni ulemas, who alleged that Naik has no degree in Islamic studies and gives speeches designed to make Muslims fight internally.

“Naik and writers Salman Rushdie and Taslima Nasrin all come in the same category — they all protect terrorism,” said Maulana Amanullah Raza, president of the All India Aimma-e-Masajid Council, one of the groups supporting the ban.

“Those who support Naik are in the minority, and are all Wahhabis (an Islamic sect focusing only on belief in Allah).”

Refuting this allegation is another group of Muslims, who claim that Naik is popular among the majority of Muslims in India and the world.

“This ban is a violation of the freedom of speech and expression that Britian is so proud of,” said Qazim Malik, and educationist associated with the Jamaat-e-Islami Hind, one of the many organisations to hold a peaceful protest on Tuesday.

“We are British Muslims. Our religion does not allow any kind of terror where ever we are. We have to prove that we Muslims are best British citizens, patriotic, law abiding and peace loving”.

“Dr. Zakir Naik is a very controversial figure. He openly supports Al Qaeda and the Talibans. He openly ridicules other faiths as well as the beliefs of the Ahl-us-Sunna (Traditional Sunnis). He is no less than Omar Bakri who, amongst others, have given a bad name to Muslims in the UK and elsewhere”.

“Dr Zakir Naik is medical doctor by professional training and not an Islamic preacher or scholar. He has no degree in Islamic studies and gives speeches designed to mock and incite hatred of other faiths as well as create divisions amongst Muslim sects. Those Muslims who support Naik Mumbai-Hindustan Times Mumbai, June 22, 2010
The ban issued by the UK government on Islamic televangelist Dr Zakir Naik has split the Muslims into two camps.
Sunni Muslims, spearheaded by the Raza Academy, visited the British High Commission on Monday to express their support to the government, which banned Naik’s entry into the country.
Another collective of Muslim organisations is planning to protest the ban at Azad Maidan on Tuesday, and to submit a petition in solidarity with the Mumbai-based preacher.
Naik, due to give two public lectures in the UK next week, has been accused of promoting terrorism in his speeches.
“We appreciate the initiative of the UK government to restrict his entry. We do not accept him as an Islamic preacher or scholar,” said the letter submitted to the British High Commission by a group of 12 Sunni ulemas, who alleged that Naik has no degree in Islamic studies and gives speeches designed to make Muslims fight internally.
“Naik and writers Salman Rushdie and Taslima Nasrin all come in the same category — they all protect terrorism,” said Maulana Amanullah Raza, president of the All India Aimma-e-Masajid Council, one of the groups supporting the ban.
“Those who support Naik are in the minority, and are all Wahhabis (an Islamic sect focusing only on belief in Allah).”
British Muslim Forum Supported the Ban in Britain
London. U.K
“Maulana Ahmad Nisar Beg Qadri, Vice-Chairman of the BritishMuslimForumsaid:

“We are British Muslims. Our religion does not allow any kind of terror where ever we are. We have to prove that we Muslims are best British citizens, patriotic, law abiding andpeaceloving”.

“Dr. Zakir Naik is a very controversial figure. He openly supports Al Qaeda and the Talibans. He openly ridicules other faiths as well as the beliefs of the Ahl-us-Sunna (Traditional Sunnis). He is no less than Omar Bakri who, amongst others, have given a bad name to Muslims in the UK and elsewhere”.

“Dr Zakir Naik is medical doctor by professional training and not an Islamic preacher or scholar. He has no degree in Islamic studies and gives speeches designed to mock and incite hatred of other faiths as well as create divisions amongst Muslim sects. Those Muslims who support Naik are in the minority. They are either Wahhabi-influenced or, English-speaking Muslim enthusiasts wanting, with the right intentions, to learn about their religion but from the wrongguy”,hesaid”

are in the minority. They are either Wahhabi-influenced or, English-speaking Muslim enthusiasts wanting, with the right intentions, to learn about their religion but from the wrong guy”, he said”

Debate between Jamshed Iqbal and Ali Sina

14 Apr

Dear Ali Sina,

Having come to know about your challenge to Mr. Zakir Naik and other Muslim scholars, I accept your challenge of  providing you  rational/ logical and psycho-philosophical insights to prove Mohammad’s (pbuh) genuin oneness with supreme reality and prophethood  through debate!

I accept your challenge for once, I too, used to think like you! Therefore, I know well that Mr. Zakir Naik could not answer your questions for he himslef is, what Bacon would call , ” an idol of a cave” that have no existance outside his forced abode! 

Morever, I would also offer you some post-modern scientific, sociological, psychological and anthropological insights (to be weighed and considered) as well so that you could see the things in totality! The debate would be published on some blogs, including yours, to have wider public attention, feedback to value your (or mine) arguments in exchange.

 I would eagerly wait for your kind mail! 

Sincere,
Jamshed Iqbal

 

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Dear Ali Sina,

Thanks for your prompt response! It shows your passion and desire to engage in debate! It is a healthy sign if the debate, as well, is going to be healthy one!

Well, I had cc-ed my previous mail to Indian Muslim Blog and Sunni News and Blog in Delhi. I am hopeful that they would readily publish our debate. However, some of the publishers, in Pakistan & NL would also be interested as they have been publishing my works previously! I will get the debate published after we have reached some conclusion!

You asked for my bio-date:

Well, I have been teaching English Literature and Western Philosophy in some universities. Moreover, I think, I pondered seriously on the conditions and questions of human life on this solitary hospitable planet. Peaceful coexistence of human family has been my main concerns of thought and writings. For last few years, I am working on Encyclopedia of Western Thought with the , so-called, oriental viewpoint. The encyclopedia is going to come out next year. 

Moreover, before proceeding, we must settle some norms for our debate. I think, it should not be just point-scoring or ego-strutting! We, as  members of human family and meaning-seeking creatures, would try to solve the puzzle of our existence with some perennial and ever-fresh questions before us……..  

I heartily wish you best of luck!

Sincere,

Jamshed Iqbal 
 

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 Dear Jamshed Iqbal

I don’t know how many of my articles you have read. If you read enough you’d know that the reason I think Islam must go is because it is a doctrine that does not allow peaceful co-existance.

Let us say there is a religion with the following teachings. Do you think you can have any peaceful co-existence with the followers of that religion?

We will cast terror into the hearts of Muslims. Therefore strike off their heads and strike off every fingertip of them. 8:12
Let not the non-Muslims take for friends or helpers the Muslims. 3:28,
Rouse the non-Muslims to the fight against Muslims.
8:65,
Then fight and slay the Muslims wherever ye find them,
9:5,
Fight the Muslims, and God will punish them by your hands, cover them with shame.
9:14 ,
O ye the non-Muslims take not for protectors your fathers and your brothers if they love Islam.
9:23,
O ye the non-Muslims! Truly the Muslims are unclean.
9:28,
O ye non-Muslims! fight the Muslims who gird you about, and let them find firmness in you.
9:123,
Therefore, when ye meet the Muslims, smite at their necks; At length.
47:4,

I hope you agree that such religion has no right to exist, that its followers must be re-educated or if they persist they should be separated from the rest of mankind to maintain peace.

Anyway, I have had many debates with Muslims who at first were confident that they know more and they can easily prove me wrong. The strength of their faith (which is a vice and not a virtue) was no substitute to the strength of their argument.

For more than a decade I have debated thousands of Muslims. I assure you there is no argument that has not been discussed already. Repetition of the same is not exciting. So I require those who wish to debate with me, to at least familiarize themselves with my arguments.

I suggest you read my book first and only after you know my views we should engage in debate. I know your views. There is nothing in Islam that I do not know. I was born a Muslim and studied it thoroughly.  I am among very few people who understand Islam. This does not mean I have more knowledge about every detail of Islam. But I understand Islam and Muhammad better than most people and all the Muslims.

So I request that you read my book first. If then you think you have found some flaws in my arguments, I would be glad to listen to you. If you want to tell me things that I have already discussed, there is no point in debating. All you have to do is read more and you will get your answer.

Are you willing to read my book? I don’t want you to buy it. I will send it to you as ebook. A lot of people who read my book left Islam as the result. You may also end up doing the same. By the time you reach half of the book you’ll start doubting everything you were told about Islam and by the time you finish it you will no longer call yourself a Muslim.
However, if any of the sites you sent the Cc of this email agree to publish our debate right from the start as it proceeds, I would drop that requirement and will debate with you right way. This would make the debate a lot more interesting because the end result will not be known until the very end. Since you are confident that Islam has all the answers, I am sure you’d all welcome my proposal. I am willing to publish our debate as it proceeds.
Regards
Ali Sina .
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 2009/3/14 (18.25)

Thank you for publishing our debate. I would be more than glad to take part in this discussion. Now how can we proceed? You can just write a rebuttal to one of my claims. Or you can answer the question that I asked above. I quoted a few verses from the sacred book of a new religion called Malsi. As you can see this faith teaches Muslims are filthy, they should be killed, they are fuel for hell, they are pigs and monkeys, and it encourages its followers to fight against the Muslims, strike their heads and be very harsh with them. Ironically, the Malsians, the followers of Malsi claim their religion promotes peace and they want peaceful co-existence with Muslims. I would like you to instruct me how to respond to these people? I tell them if they want peaceful co-existence they should purge their holy book from all those evil teachings. What I quoted is just the tip of the iceberg. Wait until you read the book. It is full of hate against Muslims. Many Malsians, following the teachings of their prophet, are constantly killing Muslims, burning the mosques have no mercy even on Muslim children. Other Malsians however, repeat ad nauseam that Malsi Faith is a beautiful religion of peace and that it is misunderstood. What do you think we should tell these people? Don’t you agree that they are misguided at best and evil at worst, that their faith is false and they need to be weaned from their faith of hate? Do you think Muslims can have any peaceful co-existence with Malsians while they hold their book of hate and terror sacrosanct? All the best Ali

Hello Mr. Jamshed Iqbal,

Will you kindly send me your bio and let me know which blog will publish our debate?

Best Regards

Ali Sina   

 

Deare Ali Sina,

 

Please remember, I accepted your debate challenge:

§  To prove Mohammad’s (pbuh) genuine oneness with Supreme Reality  &

§  Reality of his prophetic experience! (plz go through my previous message)

 

It meant that my position, in the debate was supposed to be affirmative one, and yours, the other way round. The other point I made clear was that:

 

§  It should not be just point-scoring or ego-strutting! &


§  We, as members of human family and meaning-seeking creatures, would try to solve the puzzle of our existence with some perennial and ever-fresh questions before us……..

Let me clear you certain points. Problem of the prophet-hood is the question of means, sources and ends of knowledge—the question of epistemology in scholarly terms. Here you were supposed to announce your “position” by clearing, what according to you distinguishes adequate knowledge from inadequate (false) knowledge To lay the basis of your conclusion that Mohammad (pbuh) was ***—**** (nauzu billah).   You would have to choose one position among some possibilities:

§  Putting more emphasis on logical and empirical methods, stressing that knowledge is an apprehension of necessary and universal principles. (causal determinism, empirical materialism: Aristotelian position)

§  You had other option to declare that, ” knowledge is merely an awareness of absolute, universal Ideas or Forms, existing independent of any subject trying to apprehend to them” (Idealism: Platonic position)

§  Knowledge is the product of sensory perception, and rationalism which sees it as the product of rational reflection (Post-renaissance scientific empiricism)

§  Knowledge results from a kind of mapping or reflection of external objects, through our sensory organs, possibly aided by different observation instruments, to our brain or mind. (reflection-correspondence theory: if you adopted that position you would have to enter into the mazy realm of language and its relation to reality towards Structuralism & Post structuralism)

§  Knowledge is an empirical statement which comes from analytical truth (Comte’s position: Logical Positivism)

Please, honestly, go through my last messages and see if you had any understanding of my position I declared in the very first message! Please see clearly if you have any understanding of your own position! What you put forward is quite irrelevant at this stage. For:

§  We were to see the issue in light of some perennial and ever-fresh questions (see my first message wherein I discussed about the norms)

What are these perennial questions? The “umbrella question” is “what is truth”. All the branches of sciences and philosophy, in some way or other, have this one question before them.  Human beings responded their impulse to know the truth in four distinctive ways:

1.       Mythmaking (with the aid of imagination of symbolism)

2.       Philosophy (with the aid of reason)

3.       Science (Analysis and apparatus)

4.       Religion (empathy and intuition)

 I am sorry my friend you have even no idea as what the debate is about! What areas of knowledge or disciplines our debate falls in! or even how to debate on these issues!  

You were right in inviting Mr. Zakir Naik for he was your good match! And your whole knowledge abut Islam is based on the understandings of Zakir Naiks! You have never been fortunate enough to see those who live Islam or those who found Islam!

 You and Zakir Naiks are, in principle, sailing in the same boat—they do not know what they are defending and you don’t know what you are criticizing! Both of you are perspective-less—but perspective is everything!

It goes without saying that you have never bothered to ponder upon these problems quite seriously. Please ask yourself this question in some honest moment!  Or you left them for they were far beyond your observational understanding badly entangled somewhere else? So your intellect remained dormant (it tells)—and it was entangled in minor things—in phenomenal world or appearance that is always deceptive!

I am sorry my friend, you have lost the debate before it started! However, I am giving you thirty years’ grace period to let your intellect ripe! To let these perennial questions pinch  the sleep from your eyes and pinch rest from your soul—to let your bones melt in pangs of wonder and doubt until you get a peace of truth within you! I pray for that peace for you!  

I would salute your honestly if you publish this comment on your blog as well! I would even acknowledge your integrity if you stop challenging Muslim scholars for debate! I would even adore you as a friend if you, honestly, rub out from your heart the prejudice that is product of your myopic understanding!  I assure you Mohammad (pbuh) is lovingly offering you a priceless treasure but you are refusing it for your gaze is tenaciously fixed on filth! And one is there where one’s gaze rests!

  
        I have nothing more to say. I will debate when you are ripe! For its question to save the humanity!  

       Sincere,

   Jamshed Iqbal

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2009/04/16  (8:10)

  Dear Jamshed Iqbal,

Please remember that it was you who accepted my challenge. Did you read it before accepting it? My challenge is simple and clear. I have stated that Muhammad was not a prophet of God . I have also laid a series of charges against that man that disqualify him as a good man let alone a prophet.  You said “I accept your challenge” and promised to provide “rational/ logical and psycho-philosophical insights to prove Mohammad’s (pbuh) genuine oneness with supreme reality and prophethood through debate!”

To put it in a simple language, you said you would provide proof that Muhammad was a true messenger of God. I’d love to hear that proof. Where is it?  

I asked you a simple question.  The question is how can a man****  Muhammad claimed to be the best of the creation and a perfect example to follow.  Were his actions exemplary? They were not. So how can such a man guide mankind to good deeds.

You want to discuss epistemology. Who cares whether knowledge is an apprehension of universal principles, an awareness of absolute, a product of sensory perception, or the result of analytical reflection?

Whatever the nature of knowledge, it does not diminish the abhorrence of the acts of Muhammad. It cannot also justify the absurdities of the Quran.  Muslims are killing innocent people everywhere. Since 9/11 there have been over 12000 terrorist attacks. That is an average of five per day. People die as the result. And you want to talk about epistemology?  This is red herring. What the hell does the nature of truth has to do with the fact that Muslims are terrorists?  

Okay, so my intellect is dormant. Can you please awaken it by telling us how your questions on epistemology change the  verses of the Quran? I did ponder on these questions Sir. But they have nothing to do with the claim of Muhammad. They are intellectual musings, luxuries allowed to those who live in freedom, something Islam wants to take away.

Islam promotes ignorance. Because of Islam Muslims cannot progress. They are filled with hatred of everyone and want to kill and destroy. They are reduced into beasts. Yes beasts. If one has no empathy for other humans, he is a beast and not a human.  Now these beasts have atomic bomb. As the result the world has become powder keg. Mankind has never been more in danger of extinction as it is today. So much stupidity and hatred is thought in the madrassas of Pakistan that that country is about to fall in the hands of the Taliban any time. When that happens, it would be the end. It won’t be just non-Muslims who will die, Pakistan and Iran will be obliterated. And you want to talk about epistemology?     

In your second email you wrote “I pondered seriously on the conditions and questions of human life on this solitary hospitable planet. Peaceful coexistence of human family has been my main concerns of thought and writings.”

What do you think is threatening the peaceful coexistence of human family? Is it because people don’t agree on the nature of knowledge or is it because a fifth of people follow a man who told them kill the disbelievers wherever you find them (2:191), murder them and treat them harshly (9:123), fight with them (8:65 ), strive against them with great endeavor (25:52), be stern with them because they belong to hell (66:9) and strike off their heads; then after making a “wide slaughter among them, carefully tie up the remaining captives” for ransom (47:4)?

Were those men who hijacked four planes and  killed 3000 innocent people angry because their victims did not know that “knowledge is merely an awareness of absolute,” or did they do it because their prophet told them slay the unbelievers(9:5), no other religion but Islam  is accepted (3:85), the unbelievers are  najis  (9:28), so fight them and kill them until no other religion except Islam is left (2:193)?

Dear Jamhed, what you call “peace of truth,” is peace of ignorance.  I quote the young AlwaysAisha who explains this eloquently. She wrote, “After my conversion, I felt a sense of peace and happiness that I had never before experienced in my life, and hope to never experience again. This was the peace that came with knowing with full certainty that I was in the right path. Knowing that there was a Creator who was watching over me and who had a plan for me. Knowing that He had in his infinite mercy bestowed me with the Qur’an, an instruction manual for life so that from now on I could always know the right choice and be certain of my decisions. Knowing that earthly problems did not matter at all, because this life would eventually be over and then I could look forward to paradise.”

She came to her senses and realized that this peace was gained through numbing her senses and silencing her intelligence. Shun this peace. Today you are alive; you must be inquisitive and learn. A time will come when your heart will no longer beat and your mind will be at peace, but until then avoid that peace like a plague. Bertrand Russell said, “The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves, but wiser people so full of doubts.” The certainty and peace you attain through faith is the certainty of foolishness.  

I did publish all your emails. I see the Islamic site http://www.sunninews.co.cc/ where our debate was publish is not accessible. I hope it is a tecnical problem and that page will be back with the new addition. Please also provide the link to this pagehttp://www.faithfreedom.org/2009/04/14/jamshed-iqbal-vs-ali-sina/

 See the science that Muhammad brought to the world.http://www.youtube.com

This is the 21st century and these educated Muslims believe the Earth is flat because the Quran says so and the Quran cannot be wrong.

This is the sad reality of the Ummah. 

 

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2009/04/16 (19:17)

One of our friends, Fisk wrote to Mr. Jamshed Iqbal and got the following response. (see comment # 92)

92. Fisk Says:
April 16th, 2009 at 7:00 pm e

Greetings to all.

Earlier today I wrote to Jamshed Iqbal, and to my surprise he wrote back. Here is our exchange:

On 16/04/2009, Bill Fisk wrote:

Dear Mr Iqbal

I have just read the final installment of your debate with Ali Sina, and I would like to ask you a question.

Mr Sina opened the debate with a very simple argument, which was to posit a fictional religion whose principal tenets were the hatred, vilification and persecution of Muslims. His question then was, What would you think of such a religion and what would you say to its followers?

What is it about this simple question that you find so difficult?

I notice that you claim to have won the debate, when it is clear to everyone that you didn’t even trouble to take part in it.

Yours
Fisk

Reply:
Dearest Fisk,

It was in fact a cross question to avoid real question! The real question was about the condition of Enlightenment and genuine prophetic/spiritual experience. I just asked him to declare his position (atheist, agnostic or what???) but he is beating about the bush! His was not a question but an evasive technique.

He wants others to run on the track he is habitual to run on…One who does not even know what to talk about….and what not and how….Whose position is only hatred…and, ironically, he claims to fight against hatred!

What he is doing is just point scoring or showing is only ego-defensive attitude! May be to his loyality to his funders at the cost of being faithful to humanity at large! At the cost of our hospitable home—the earth! This is the common problem with Charlatans or hate-mongers…
I request you to make him declare his position……so that we could go ahead! And please advice him to move away from puffed cliches! This is the matter of life of human family….this is the matter of upcoming innocent angels……not a joke!

The issue we are to decide collectively (as human beings) is locating the source of violence! He says, they are Muslims… is not it a sweeping generalization..and logically speaking…these kinds of generalizations are always wrong! They make healthy debate impossible! Violence is “shared characteristic” of human kind….it is the product of id….it is what we learnt from caves and tribes! We, humans, are basically cave or tribal species! and to be civilized human, one needs to surpass id.And Religion (I am not talking about only Islam…Islam is one of the religions) was, actually, a device to drive it away from within!

I would request you express your comments on his site for it would become difficult for me to answer hundreds of friends…you wrote and thought it improper not to answer you!

Sincerely yours,

Jamshed Iqbal

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2009/04/16  (20:37)

 

Hello Jamshed.

You say I avoided the real question, which was “the condition of Enlightenment and genuine prophetic/spiritual experience.”

I am the one who posed the question and challenged Muslims to answer me. You are the one who accepted that challenge. It is you who has to answer my question and not the other way round. 

So you want to talk about the “condition of Enlightenment and genuine prophetic/spiritual experience.” What would that prove? Would it prove that Muhammad was a real prophet of God.Please go ahead and prove it. Give me one solid irrefutable evidence that this man was not making things up, and what he said can be proven to be truthful and without resorting to logical fallacies. 

If you can provide that proof, I will drop all my charges against him.  

Let us say that you can prove Muhammad knew things no one knew. (I heard a lot of such claims, such as the Quran is a mathematical wonder or it has foretold about all the inventions and discoveries. All of them are wishful thinking of Muslims with wild imagination.) Does that prove that that knowledge came from God? 

This question is important. The answer lies in the deeds of Muhammad.  So assuming you prove Muhammad had extraordinary powers, you still have not proven that he was indeed a prophet of God. 

However, let us not even go there because there is no proof that Muhammad had any knowledge that ordinary men of his time did not have. 

 

However, if it is important, and you can’t prove the truth of Muhammad without knowing my position, let me make it simple for you. For the sake of argument I accept whatever is your definition of God. I even agree that Allah, the same deity that was worshipped by the Meccans prior to Muhammad, and the same god that sent Jesus, as Muhammad claimed, is the real God.  Now I want you to prove that Muhammad was a messenger of this Allah. Please provide evidence that he did not make up the whole thing to fool the gullible and make them wage war for him and make him rich and powerful.

I am not asking you to prove God. I even recite the first part of shahadah. Ashhado in la ilah illa Allah. Happy? Now please prove that Muhammad was Rasool Allah.

You keep talking about humanity and the need for peaceful co-existence while at the same time you believe in a book that calls for the massacre of all non-Muslims and the submission and subjugation of all mankind.  There is a cognitive dissonance between what you profess with your mouth and what you actually believe as your faith. How can you talk of peaceful co-existence when you think words such as “the unbelievers are filthy, the Jews are pigs, the non-Muslims are the worst creatures in the sight of Allah, slay them wherever you find them,” are divine teachings?

Can you have peaceful co-existence with the Malsians whose sacred book mirrors the Quran and incites hatred against the Muslims?  You did not answer this question? Would you say that Malsi religion is a peaceful religion?   

No! Violence is NOT“shared characteristic” of humankind. People become violent when exposed to violent teachings. Yes, violence dose also have psychological components, such as greed, envy, anger, etc. all byproducts of low self-esteem. However, crowds have a psychology of their own and they can become violent through external influences.  We do not expect to see violent behavior among a crowd coming out of a church, a synagogue, a Hindu or a Buddhist temple, or a Zoroastrian or a Baha’i gathering. But if I see a crowd coming out of a mosque towards me, I will run as fast as I can.  

Non violent people can become violent when they believe in violent teachings. If religion had no effect in how we humans behave, then what is the point of having religion at all? The very purpose of religion is to influence people and make them do things their way.  If their way is peaceful, the believers are likely to behave peacefully and if it is violent, the believers will act violently.

Let us hear now what proof you can present to make us believe that Muhammad was a genuine, prophet.

 

Moderator-

Many of the Lines of Ali Sina were deleted due to abusive and filthy language.I  kept the post for the sake of Neutrality.

 

Dr. Zakir Naik – Defame And Destroy

25 Feb

JAMSHED IQBAL

Courtesy: IndianMuslims.in

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One comes across several interesting comments from the people who have been defending Mr. Zakir Naik on Indian Muslims Blog. Most of my brothers and sisters are impressed by his “immense knowledge” without knowing that his kind of knowledge (database or retention) has nothing to do with religion at all. In other words the knowledge he and his fans boast of is irreligious in its very essence, for any true religion is an ever-flowing fountain of “wisdom” not “knowledge”.

However, Mr. Naik is not an only man basking under this false impression but, it is pity that most of our so-called Muslim scholars are making the profits of same deceptive notion. And it is about this “subtle subversion” that Muslim world or Muslim identity has suffered a great deal. Therefore in this article, I would talk about a whole range of “scholars” of this nature and use the name of Mr. Naik as an “all-purpose unit” to bring my point home.

A wise man may have some knowledge but “it does not necessitate that every knowledgeable man is wise”. For knowledge comes with analysis but wisdom with synthesis. Analysis demands scattering the whole into parts and pieces, on the contrary, synthesis demands uniting and reassembling the parts, once again, into a whole. Men of knowledge without wisdom are far more harmful for human family than mad men. For knowledge without wisdom lacks comprehensiveness of vision, feelings, beauty and empathy. Therefore it is not beneficial at all, and in religious terms, it is irreligious! How? A man of knowledge studies the composition of the atom from a disinterested desire for knowledge, and incidentally places it in the hands of powerful lunatics as the means of destroying the human race. In such ways the pursuit of knowledge may become harmful unless it is combined with wisdom; and wisdom in the sense of comprehensive vision is not necessarily present in specialists in the pursuit of any kind of knowledge.

The point is “so-called men of knowledge lack comprehensive vision that is necessary to make them wise”. Ask, for example, a man of science to define human being! If he is sociologist he will tell you that, “man is a social animal for he cannot live without society”. Ask the same question to a physicist and he would brief you about “material composition of a human being” and reduce it to material hump. Raise this question before a chemist and get ready to listen that “man is nothing but product or composition of different chemicals”. A chemist would also open your eyes by telling that “man is a chemical animal and his emotions and character is mainly controlled by chemical balance or imbalance”. Go to a biologist to listen, “human being is an organism composed of different organs”. See a human being have been dissected into piece and lost! Even if all of these definitions cannot include what makes a human being a human being! Definitions, I mean to say, are the foundations of analytical thinking and they always fail to spot the core—the essence.

For example, in above definition of human person, what makes human person a human person is nowhere, as no definition could be holistic! Moreover, in definition, metaphor or simile, as logic demands, is not allowed to make analytical thinking free from feelings but religious wisdom or morality is absurd or impossible without feelings! There is no room for aesthetics (beauty) in analysis and morality or wisdom gushes from these two springs as well!

I think Islam is very clear about this point as: “Allah is beautiful and loves beauty”. Allah (The Supreme Reality) is truth and truth cannot be revealed unto those whose whole effort is demystification and dissection! Has analysis anything to do with “love”? Isn’t beauty a mystery so beyond the logic (Allah Him/Herself)? Have analytical sciences, from so-called Enlightenment Age onwards, not been trying to demystify the mysterious phenomenon of existence or being? Was it not an organized effort to obliterate God from human consciousness? Has sciences (knowledge not wisdom) not been consciously trying to omit suggestiveness from natural phenomena to make it dull and ugly! There have a tendency among Quranic scholars—the tendency to count! For example word (or Ism-e-Zat) Allah has been used so many times in Quran.

Mr. Zakir Naik, and others of course, can safely claim 10 GB memory containing these types of calculations. But, so far as I know, no one has told that how many similes and metaphors are used in Quran. How many attributes of Allah (the beneficent the merciful) reflect rationality and others feelings or emotions? Mr. Zakir Naik could not deny that Prophet Mohammad’s (May peace by upon him) holy life is an evergreen epic of compassion and empathy—the gift “to feel” with others! Remember once my Lord was running for milking the sheep to feed a crying cat when West was not familiar with “animal rights”! Was it analysis or feeling—feeling with and for the whole creation? Islam is known to be the highest point of Abrahamic tradition and Prophet Abraham dived into the fire! A rationalist or an analyst (or a man of knowledge) would never think that fire could behave otherwise! In short the whole range of knowledge mounted up by sciences is of analytical nature, and therefore today, world is rich with knowledge but poor in wisdom. For if it were rich in wisdom we would have been living in paradise!

The main problem with our age is that our age far surpasses all previous ages in knowledge (rotted data) but there is a correlative “famine” of wisdom. Since wisdom includes not only intellect but also feelings, and this world is mostly steered by those whose knowledge is wide but feelings are too narrow! Therefore they have made it a hell of hatred! One of my brothers, Mr. Wasif, wrote about Zakir Naik’s comments about Sufi saints.

According to him Zakir Naik says: “Sufism is an alien plant in the soil of Islam” These are actually the words of Allama Mohammad Iqbal (1877-1938) who, no doubt, was an extraordinarily profound and inspiring poet—but as a philosopher, he used to wear several hats of intellect like Herbert Spencer in Western philosophical tradition. Actually, as I think, his poetry and thought begins in trivial metaphors, pretty metaphors, then culminates into “grace metaphors” and finally goes on to profoundest thinking that we have. Mr. Zakir Naik should note that in his profundity—Iqbal himself is a Sufi!

For example: Ik Danish-e-burhani, ik Danish-e-ruhani Hai Danish-e-burhani hairat ki frawani (One the one hand there is an argumentative/logical wisdom, and, on the other hand spiritual wisdom! But argumentative/logical wisdom is nothing but surplus of wonder…….) Qadhe khirad froze keh Frang dad mara Hama aftab lekin asar-e-sahar na darid (The shining wine cup of rationality offered by the West is the full Sun but powerless/impotent to bring into being lime light of the morning) Iqbal used to call himself a disciple (mureed hindi) of Jalal-ud-Din Rumi—the great Persian Sufi poet! Therefore, he was highly impressed by Persian influence on Islamic culture, community and thought. For example, in his famous chapter, The Muslim Community, in The Reconstruction of Religious Thought in Islam, Iqbal writes: “The conquest of Persia gave to the Musalmans what the conquest of Greece gave to the Romans. But for Persian, our culture would have been absolutely one sided”. It is doubtless that Mr. Zakir Naik is advocating and pushing exclusively soulless, fanatical and chauvinistic Saudi (Wahhabi) version of Islam that has become a disgusting scar on the face of highly inclusive Islamic teachings! It is duty of Wahabism to wage war against teachings of great Sufi saints who kept the divinely prophet-consciousness alive not by preaching the truth but living like truth! Naik’s grudge towards Hussain (may Allah be pleased with him) is a clear sign that he is an agent of un-Islamic Saudi state employed to save her from Hussain who exposes and challenges Yazid of every age!

Wahhabism is troubled by Sufism for it is a message of inclusiveness and tolerance! Wahhabism wages war against it for it is a message of freedom and core of Islam that is, in its essence anti- hierarchy and anti-establishment! Wahhabism is afraid of Sufism for it shows a beautiful face of Islam but Saudi’s allies (especially United States) are funding her to prove it ugly and dangerous for peaceful coexistence! Mr. Zakir Naik and all his friends are stakeholders in the highly lucrative and hideous business of a great conspiracy “Defame & Destroy”. For it is duty of Wahhabism to promote blameful and reproachably bigoted religiosity for facilitating its funders to wipe Muslims from the face of the earth by declaring them potentially dangerous creatures!

May Allah save my innocent brothers and sisters in Islam from felling a prey to a vicious alliance! May Allah help us to show our non-Muslim brothers and sisters that Wahhabism is not the real face of Islam! Islam is one of the most inclusive religions wherein “ink of a scholar is holier than blood of a martyr” and “killing one human person is killing humanity”! Islam—that is a religion of heart, love, empathy and compassion! Amen!

Jamshed Iqbal is a student and teacher of English literature and philosophy.

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